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GrandPaulZ

Triumph isn't going to build a "high end" Thruxton, because it would take sales away from the Daytona.

Business models are worth nothing. Delivering product is what it's all about in the real world, and Triumph seems to be doing that quite well. THAT is a business model with teeth!

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TBSstunta

There is no way that a Thrux with good suspension would canibalize sales from the D675. Perhaps one or two people are on the fence as to what kind of bike they want, but for the vast majority if you are set on a high performance sportbike a retro won't meet that need.

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mg

all good points, I've been hoping for a larger displacment speedmaster... but that is a topic for another forum...

m_t_yeo

It is my opinion that the standardized models based on the Bonnie platform (Bonnie, Thrux, T100 and America) are the 'smart business decision' that allowed cutting edge bikes like the D675 to be built. When you are a small company looking to expand, it doesn't make any sense to have a zillion models, each requiring different manufacturing, training and construction processes. The more you can standardize between models, the more cost-effective the mass production becomes.

Once you have some dough in the bank, though, you use it to R&D your specialty bikes like the D675. You think that bike would exist without the great success of the entire Bonnie line? I doubt it.

That being said ... a 500cc single Thruxton would be *perfect*.

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Matt

WANG

If the prevailing pattern of Triumph's air-cooled twin line development continues, they will almost certainly come out with a 1,000cc variant...that makes about 35HP at the rear wheel! :-D

It does seem like Triumph could do a little better with the retro-sport concept than they have.

Mine has pretty decent suspension (AK20 cartridge forks and WORKS streettrackers) that ran about $1700 altogether. These things really helped the bike out alot. I'd think that non-adjustable cartridge forks and some "better" shocks, from the OEM, couldn't increase the price too much. The brake is still pretty feeble under hard use and requires a pretty mighty yank of the lever, even with fresh fluid and hunky-dory pads. The single disc might work okay in town, and in magazine-style test stops where the thing never really gets any heat in it, but under rugged use it just wilts. This wouldn't be so if they would have simply given the bike two of the same caliper/rotor. That probably wouldn't cost a gob, either.

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joeswamp

I agree, the suspension is where they just cheaped out just a bit too much. Low end cartridge forks would have been really nice.

My guess is that they set a price based on what they thought people wanted to pay, and then they just started adding stuff until they got to that number. Once they did the lower production exhaust, clip ons, tach, aluminum rims, etc they hit their limit and could spend no more.

I do wish the engine had higher compression and a hotter cam though, this wouldn't have cost anything and early promotional material made it look like that's what they were planning to do. I'm curious what happened there, either they didn't want the T100 to have that much power or a last minute engine test went bad and they decided to go the conservative route.

Spyder94

BANG FOR THE BUCK THE THRUXTON IS A GREAT VALUE BIKE. Non existent Norton's,
are a wet dream.
Looks are cool, What, where is the
torque-beef. Thurston's are the cool underpowered
sport bikes of yesteryear.Ride and smile. Enjoy what you have. I love all bikes. Even Harleys. Duel everything.Spyder.
















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GrandPaulZ

Spyder:

"Cool UNDERPOWERED sportbikes of yesteryear"??

They have 25% (probably more) more power than the old Bonnie 750s did. 10x better brakes, way better handling, far more reliable engines & electrics, etc.

They have ample power to top the ton, and would shame any old Bonnie in a drag race, and can break the national speed limit early in 4th gear.

So what's underpowered about them?

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TBSstunta

To be fair, I could break the speed limit on my old Virago 250. Does that mean the 250 is not underpowered?

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