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Old 11-16-2012, 08:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thruxton TORS Questions

I read through the exhaust sticky and didn't see this info..

On my 2013 Thruxton, the stock exhaust has what appears to be a heatshield on the exhaust, right at the joint between the header pipe and the slip on muffler. I looked on Bike Bandit and did not see these listed? Are these heat sheilds made into the stock slip on? I've obviously not taking the mufflers off yet..

I'm considering TORS mufflers to replace the stock ones- I want some more sound, but I have uptight neighbors who would certainly cause problems for me if I got too loud. For me and what I ride the bike for, it has enough performance, so I'm not really looking for more- I do want to re-map, as I want the bike to run right after the TORS install.

So, the above being said, anyone know: 1) Where you can buy TORS new? Has Triumph replaced these with the Arrow systems? Or can you still buy them? I didn't see them on their website. 2) Does the install defeat the heat shields from the stock system? 3) What FI map to use for TORS? The "Arrow 2:2" map? Does anyone with TORS have a good experience to report, as in "Yes I used the xyz map, the bike runs great, no popping, etc." I'm assuming the map doesn't care if the AI is in or out- right now it is in, and I'm not concerned at all with pipe bluing.. Maybe it will come out later if the equipment fails or becomes troublesome, but right now I see no need to remove it.

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Old 11-16-2012, 06:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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1.you can get TORs new from british customs.
2.the install does delete the heat shields
3.you will want to run the TOR map or atleast the arrow 2 into 2 map.
im running tor's and they are awesome. i also have uptight neighbors. they are not very loud at idle but when you open the throttle they do get loud and sound great. i am running the arrow 2 into 2 map only because i loaded it myself from tune ecu and they didnt have the tor tune. bike runs great. no poping off the throttle, good power and no flat spots. in my opinion they are a great exhaust. they keep the stock look and make it so you can hear that twin.

here is mine:

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Old 11-17-2012, 01:04 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I've got TORs on my bike. They're pretty quiet at idle, so warming the bike up etc. shouldn't upset the neighbours. They sound great when you get on the gas.


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Old 11-17-2012, 06:51 AM   #4 (permalink)
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What matress said. Leonie has them on her Thruxton and they are a bit quiet for my liking but that said, heaps better than standard.

They are nice pipes IMO but I prefer the Madas or Epco
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Old 11-17-2012, 04:08 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I bought TORS from my Triumph dealer and took delivery of them, centerstand and flyscreen even before my bike arrived. I waited about 500 miles to install so I'd have a baseline. They are very easy to install and you can buy the same sealant the factory uses at Wal-Mart (Permatex High-Temp Red RTV Silicone Gasket Maker) - just place a small bead all around the inside of the muffler inlet about 1/4" from the edge. I installed the factory TORS map w/ TuneECU at the same time and may experiment w/ the Arrow next year.

I was kind of surprised at the shields being welded to the stock mufflers and omitted from the TORS because I like their look, but have adjusted and am happy w/o them now. I liked the sound from the get go and am amazed at how relatively quet they are for being straight-through (you could drop a ball in one end and it would run out the other). I've got about 2000 miles on mine now and they sound a bit louder than new and even nicer. A lot of my friends have commented on how nice they sound and not too loud.

This will give you an idea as to how they sound:


The best part; it wakes up the engine. Stock and new, at 50 MPH in a top gear roll-on; I couldn't feel a thing. Now w/ some miles, TORS, ECU remap and snorkle removal - it accelerates. Nothing like some of my other bikes, but I no longer have to shift down to pass as that speed. Also, I like how they have the sidestand bracket integrated like the standard mufflers and how well they fit. Also, the chrome is absolutely flawless.


To me, the only negative is they don't seem to be any lighter than the stock mufflers.
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:02 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Awesome info all around folks, thank you!

Just two more questions:
Do the TORS have the same size, look, and shape as stock? I think the stock exhaust mufflers suit the bike well looks wise...

And, do any of you still run the AI, and if so, still happy with the TORS after fuel injection remap?

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TORs are the same size as the stock. Only visual difference is the exhaust hole is noticeably bigger .
I'm sure that Triumph still sells TORs . They only changed the name to Triumph Accessory Mufflers .

Here's the part number ..
Triumph Thruxton Accessory Muffler [A9608070]
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I bought TORS from my Triumph dealer and took delivery of them, centerstand and flyscreen...Also, I like how they have the sidestand bracket integrated like the standard mufflers and how well they fit.
So your center stand fits with the TORS?

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I was kind of surprised at the shields being welded to the stock mufflers and omitted from the TORS
I thought the TORS included the heat shields. Here's a photo of a pair recently sold on ePay. What gives?



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Here's the part number .. Triumph Thruxton Accessory Muffler [A9608070]
The parts guy at the local Triumph dealer recognized A9608070 in his system, but said it has been superseded to A9608056. Take note that these are blanket part numbers for the pair, and each left and right muffler has its own part number.
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very interesting about the heat shields.. I wonder if on the stock bikes the heat shield is only on the latest series bikes (the bikes that got the canbus gauges, no idiot lights, etc.) Maybe only the newest manufactured TORS have the shields? Or maybe they were on earlier runs but were eliminated?

Also, anyone have the part # of the TORS exhaust map?
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Yes, dimensionally there doesn't appear to be any difference between them and the stock mufflers. Just a guess, TORS may have come w/ heat shields earlier.


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So your center stand fits with the TORS?

I thought the TORS included the heat shields. Here's a photo of a pair recently sold on ePay. What gives?






The parts guy at the local Triumph dealer recognized A9608070 in his system, but said it has been superseded to A9608056. Take note that these are blanket part numbers for the pair, and each left and right muffler has its own part number.
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