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Jan_73_Bonne

Well, I replace the shifter springs, then went to put the gearbox outer cover back on, well I wound the kick start spring too much and messed up the kickstart spring real bad, so I have another coming, is there any stratightforward way of putting the cover back on correctly in regards to the kickstarter? Basically, once I have the new spring, what should i effectively do to re-install correctly?

thanks for any advice

Woolly

Count your fingers before you start, and if you've got roughly the same number when you finish, you've done a good job

Seriously though, check that the teeth on the kickstart pinion & ratchet are good - sharp to the point of being painful, check the teeth on the quadrant - the first is intentionally worn away, but the rest should mesh perfectly with the ratchet pinion. The only purpose of the spring is to support the kickstart lever in the 'up' position - don't wind it up too tightly. Whilst you've got the gearbox outer cover off, take time to check the gear change quadrant return springs - they often fail, leaving you with a droopy pedal

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Jan_73_Bonne

it's putting the external case on and setting where the kick start should be that is the real major problem

OzBloke

Jan73,

If you wind the kickstart pedal approx 1.75 turns counterclockwise (when facing the outside of the cover) winding up or tightening the spring, then hold the cover with the pedal at the 9 o'clock position, then slide the cover on. When you get it seated, releasing the pedal slowly will see it stop at the 11 o'clock position if everything is aligned properly.

If you have the pedal off the shaft, use an 8" or 10" shifter on the flat section of the shaft, and use the flat as the 9 o'clock / 11 o'clock reference.

Hope this helps

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Jan_73_Bonne

If I wind the pedal 1.75 turns, then the shifter would be at 3 o'clock assuming the pedal started st the 12 oclock position??, then how do I get it at 9 when putting the cover on, that would be 1.25 turns, sorry for the dumb question, my first time working on a bike

wingnut

on the inner cover there is the hole that the kicker spindle seats in, just left of that is the stop for the kicker cam, the teeth should be towards the bottom of the bike., this half-moon shape provides for stop in both directions.

refer to your manual on the correct position of the spring on the spindle, or i can upload a scan of it on Monday for you.

i don't recall how any turns it took, just enough to put tension, it wasn't wound up too tight so there wasn't much of a struggle, and it is still sufficient to return the arm with no problem, i think winding it too tight puts some stress on the inner cover. hope this helps.

oh and make sure you are winding this anti-clockwise (counter-clockwise) when the outside cover is facing you

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OzBloke

As Wingnut mentions, you need to note where the centre of the spring mounts on the kickstart quadrant. After attaching the spring (inner to quadrant, outer to pin on the case, it will require about .5 turn to get it to the position where the quadrant is pointed towards the 5-6 o'clock position. Then you take it 1.25 turns anti-clockwise from there. You may need to push the kickstart shaft in a bit to get the quadrant over the stop "pin/shaft", and this is why it's easier to take the pedal off the shaft and use a shifter.

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