Triumphrat

jonkull · 08-15-2007, 08:09 PM

So this morning I got on my Tiger, squeezed the clutch and gave it a kick. There was a quick snap and the kickstart went limp. It no longer returns to it's upright position and I'm assuming that the spring broke or disconnected somehow. I can start the engine...I just need to reach down and pull the kickstart upright with my hand after I kick it.

Anyway before I pull this thing apart is replacing the spring a fairly straightforward/easy thing to do or will it require an assortment of odd tools and parts best provided by my friendly mechanic?

Thanks!

KADUTZ · 08-15-2007, 08:43 PM

If you can do a tune up you can change the spring.

jonkull · 08-15-2007, 08:49 PM

Easy enough...until I start throwing wrenches.

KADUTZ · 08-16-2007, 01:57 AM

I can understand the problem. Last time I threw a wench she got VERY upset
and like you said a quick snap and my kickstart went limp and would not go back to the upright position and ................. Oh you said wrench my mistake, sorrry bout that. A few tools, a shop manual, a bit of patience, an a pint or two of Guiness you'll get the job done. If I can do it you can do it.
Dis stuff aint brain surgery.
K

jonkull · 08-16-2007, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KADUTZ

I can understand the problem. Last time I threw a wench she got VERY upset
and like you said a quick snap and my kickstart went limp and would not go back to the upright position and ................. Oh you said wrench my mistake, sorrry bout that. A few tools, a shop manual, a bit of patience, an a pint or two of Guiness you'll get the job done. If I can do it you can do it.
Dis stuff aint brain surgery.
K

LOL! That's funny.

Well my dilema now is paying a mechanic to do it right or having the satisfaction of doing it myself and paying the fine when the condo-nazi catches me 'working' in the parking lot again.

Mecchanica · 08-16-2007, 05:01 PM

Biggest hassle is removing the pipe/muffler, although you can usually just loosen them and let it drop a few inches so that you can access the bottom screw.
Before you pull the cover, remove the nut and drift the cotter loose, but don't remove it completely, since it makes a convenient handle to pull the cover off. I'd buy a new cotter as well as the spring, since whacking on it can cause damage. Since it's a pain to go back in, I'd also change the pawl springs and the shifter springs at this time as they are cheap. Changing the kickstart ratchet spring requires that you remove the big nut on the end of the mainshaft, and if you're sneaking this in under the noses of the condonazis, then you might want to forego that one, but if you take it to a shop, have them change that spring, too, just to be safe.
When you remove the shaft and quadrant, along with the remains of the spring, note which of the splines the spring is anchored on. It should be the one which lines up with the clockwise edge of the cotter flat. If you hold that shaft assy. so that you are looking at it from the outer end and put the flat at about a 45 degree angle to the left, the clockwise edge of the flat will be about the 12 o'clock position and that is where the spring anchors.
There is a pin which is the quadrant stop and it presses into the inner cover at the rear, it's about five eighths inch in diameter. Repeated whacking from the kicker returning can loosen it and it will then leak a little gear oil out of the back of the engine. If it's loose, remove and clean the surfaces and use sealer, loctite, or silicone to set the pin back in place.

jonkull · 08-16-2007, 08:22 PM

Thanks Mecchanica for the very detailed response. I'm probably going to take it to a mechanic. Thanks for the suggestion on th eother springs and such. As long as it's open I may as well have those checked out as well.

Mecchanica · 08-16-2007, 09:01 PM

They are cheap enough, just have the mechanic change them. Get the max for your labor fee. Drain and refill with a synthetic gear lube, 75/85 hypoid.

quagmire · 08-16-2007, 10:31 PM

do it yourself. It's really not that hard. I'mprettymuchan idiot when it comes to bikes, but I thought this pretty easy. Just remember what Mech said about where the spring lines up on the kickstart lever.

KADUTZ · 08-17-2007, 12:52 AM

jonkull

the way eye c it is u have for choices

1 tell das furher you are only cleaning and polishing the outer gearbox cover and kickstart assembly

2 move the scoot in side the condo and do the work in the kitchen.

3 borrow a friends garage (or a corner of his living room)

4 PAY LOTS OF MONEY and have someone else fix the scoot (and learn nuttin).