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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 08-25-2013, 07:37 PM Thread Starter
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I have owned and rode my Triumph since about JAN 1971. I have

replaced the primary chain, engine sprocket, and clutch chain wheel,

rubbers in the clutch hub, and clutch plates in my Triumph before.

Yesterday I installed another Reynolds primary chain. So glad to finish

installing the 20 roller bearings. Did a dumb axx mistake and installed

the clutch inner hub without the three bolts for the clutch springs.

Only tightened the retaining nut on the free wheeling hub it was

not torqued. Just held the hub with my hand to tighten the nut.

Did not discover my mistake until I started to work on the Triumph

this afternoon. Removed the retaining nut and found the hub very

secure on the shaft. Used my rubber mallet hoping I could loosen it

on the shaft, no luck.

Asking for ideas on how to get my hub off the shaft to install the

three bolts.

The three bolts were stored under the clutch hub plate and out of

sight on a shelf not in my bolt pan with the springs and spring nuts.

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post #2 of 19 (permalink) Old 08-26-2013, 01:58 AM
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I can't offer any suggestions but must say congratulations on keeping your bike for almost 43 years.
Back in 69 I purchased a new one (TR6R) but foolishly traded it for a CB750. Always missed it and about 10 years ago found a very tidy un-restored replacement, it's a keeper.
Post a photo of your old girl, I'd love to see it.
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Far as i know, most of the tricks for popping the hub without the factory tool, involve using those 3 studs. Tool is cheap and readily available from most parts shops.

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Thanks for the replies random guy and redmoggy. I cannot post pictures but can send one e-mail.
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what about using small rawlbolts as expanding units inside the holes?
Don't know if they are available that size and if they'd have the strength.

One you can fit the pressure plate, the clutch can be used to pop the unit off.
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I would buy the inexpensive tool so its easy next time.Seems odd you managed to get it off without one after it had been on a long time and now its just fitted,its stuck.Think I might adapt a couple of tyre leavers and gently prise it.
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I would buy the inexpensive tool so its easy next time.Seems odd you managed to get it off without one after it had been on a long time and now its just fitted,its stuck.Think I might adapt a couple of tyre leavers and gently prise it.
I have not had any trouble using the 3 hub bolts and the pressure plate in the multiple times I have removed it in past years. One thing for sure, I will not forget to have the bolts in the hub next time.
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Yep, the 'proper' tool has a male thread that screws into the hub and the center shaft works against the tranny mainshaft.

The thread is particular.

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what about using small rawlbolts as expanding units inside the holes?
Don't know if they are available that size and if they'd have the strength.

One you can fit the pressure plate, the clutch can be used to pop the unit off.
Dave I do not know what rawbolts are. Would a hardware store have them?
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http://www.screwfix.com/p/rawlplug-r...ack-of-5/46792

they are fixings designed to hold up in masonry If you get the rightsize, they expand outwards as they tighten and can be used to pull bearings out.

Adding the 3 or 4 to your clutch would maybe replace the bolts that you forgot and let you extract it. Over here, they are in every DIY store

But the proper Triumph clutch puller is handy to have

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/61-7014-BS...item35c937d5a6
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