Triumphrat

04-13-2006, 07:18 PM

Hey all, this is a great "one stop shopping" site for new Triumph owners. I recently became the proud owner of what I think is a 1971 Triumph Trophy. I have been "lurking" for a few weeks and have gleaned tons of useful info so far.

Here are the numbers (frame/engine) for anyone who cares to verify my research.

Frame: KE00994100R
Engine: T110 D3268

It seems to me that I have a '71 Trophy T100R (500cc) frame with a middle to late '60's 650cc motor?

This is not an "oil in the frame" bike. There is an oil tank on the right hand side. Anyway, thanks again for the great site and anyone who wants to chime in on the bike will be greatly appreciated!

--grimr2

KuzzinKenny · 04-13-2006, 07:39 PM

Hi grimr2 and welcome to the forum. i can confirm the KE is September 1971 but have forgot what the T110 is. its a pity it didn`t have the original motor in it as i think the R was for racing !! T100R !!

hope this helps !!

KK

jimballard · 04-13-2006, 08:14 PM

The T110 was a 650cc model, but I think it ended with the introduction of the unit construction models. The "R" designation is for "road" as in TR6R or T120R. Is the engine a unit or non unit construction?

Hope I'm on the right track: Jim

KuzzinKenny · 04-13-2006, 08:22 PM

Quote:

On 2006-04-13 18:14, jimballard wrote:
The "R" designation is for "road"

thanx for putting my right on the R part, been away from the older trumps for tooooooo long.

cheerz Jim !!

KK

KADUTZ · 04-13-2006, 09:36 PM

Frame numbers are in the correct sequence fro a 71 T100R
KE is 1971 model year bike manufactured in Sept 1970.
I would suspect the correct frame number is T100R KE00994
The engine number quoted (T110 D3268) is a Pre-Unit 650
The number are from late 1960 (Educated guess late June or July) If this is a unit engine some one has been "playing with the numbers". Wont say you cant put PU engine in that frame as I know someone that has a73 T65 engine in
a 71/72 T150 front frame section on a hard tail.
500 Triumphs were never oil in frame only the 650/750 Twins
from 71 model year up.
Wouldn't mind seeing a picture of this one if you have a P.U. engine in a T100 frame
The "R" designation appears to have first been used in 1960
on the T120R and 1961 on the T500AR both US models with low pipes.

[ This message was edited by: KADUTZ on 2006-04-13 19:54 ]

Lutz · 04-13-2006, 10:14 PM

Hey Kadutz,
Never say never .I have 2 500CC Triumphs that are oil in frame models. These are a 1973 and a 1974 TR5 T models.
Maybe you forgot but that is O.K. we can still be friends.
Just don't call them trumps or trumpets and I will refrain from calling the ones Hinkey models .
Lutz

04-13-2006, 10:50 PM

Thanks all for the quick responses. Especially Kadutz! The numbers given are in the exact sequence on the frame and engine. I knew that the motor wasn't the right one for the frame but wasn't sure of the year.

I will get some pics posted soon but they will be of the frame alone or the engine alone as the bike is disassembled with the frame stripped/cleaned/primed/painted.

The wierd thing is that I have looked at a lot of Triumphs on the web like this one and the motor looks "just" like the 500cc. Is it simply just bigger cylinders?

I am waiting for the Clymer etc. books to arrive. I can probably answer these questions then

-- grimr2

KADUTZ · 04-14-2006, 12:11 AM

Grand Poop Pa LUTZ I bow your superior knowledge

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The fact you still will be friends with a KADITZ from Ol'
Cantuck warms my heart. All I can say is KAWABUNGA
I promise I will never call them trumphs or trumpets but dat is as far as I will go.

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DAGAD · 04-14-2006, 02:43 AM

Here is my 2 cents worth. Frame KE00994 T100R is a Daytona built September 1970 as a 1971 model. Engine T110 D3268 is a Tiger 110, from March 1960.
Now while It seems feesable to amalgamate these two Iconic Triumphs, who in hell would want to do such a thing???
I also am looking forward to the photos, however Grimr2 I think you have been sold a serious miss-match.
Roy.

GrandPaulZ · 04-14-2006, 08:15 AM

<<Frame KE00994 T100R is a Daytona built September 1970 as a 1971 model. Engine T110 D3268 is a Tiger 110, from March 1960. Now while It seems feesable to amalgamate these two Iconic Triumphs, who in hell would want to do such a thing?>>

I'll take a stab at it - I'll bet somebody found a deal on a '71 rolling chassis, started looking for an engine, and found a deal on a '60 lump. I'll go even further and venture a guess that the top end is not the original one for the lower lump.

That is the beauty of the old Triumphs, some of the bits from bikes made almost 20 years aparts can be successfully grafted together to resurrect monsters that run and deliver fun after being given up for dead more than once.