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Old 12-09-2012, 09:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is it true? '57-'59 Fender manufactures and price?

I have always keep an eye out for pre unit parts, suppliers, manufactures and prices. When looking at the acquisition of these very scares fenders (but limited demand for) and enquiring on the manufacture of these, it turns out as we have known by the look of things that only Ace classic's http://www.aceclassics.co.uk/products/mudguards has the originals that are manufacture by http://www.auto-cycle.co.uk/index.htm I believe also in the UK. (I could be wrong but I don't think so - I did phone them at one stage, but they did not want to sell to me and referred me to Ace). Who then sell them for 720 GBP each. Burton Bike Bits whom I have dealt with in the past also supply these parts at 220 GBP and after enquiring was told that they are UK made, but need a bit of work. Well now I am not sure after seeing these Indian made fenders on ebay and enquiring more info from them. See Front fender at 120 GBP
http://www.ebay.com/itm/290824244669...84.m1438.l2649
Rear fender at 215 GBP
http://www.ebay.com/itm/290810102776...84.m1438.l2649


After seeing this eBay listing I thought I would enquire a bit more about it. Surprisingly they responded (which is most unusual) so I thought I would post their exact reply for you guys to comment on.

Reply from Partsparadise51:
“Dear Sir,
Thank you so much for getting back to us.
Burton Bike bits is a very old customer of ours.
Secondly hardly 10% of the entire motorcycle parts range is manufactured in UK, rest all is manufactured in India or other parts of the world.
If a dealer markets as made in UK, then majority of dealers are talking all false.
The mudguard that you are seeing at burton bike bits is are mudguards.
The mudguards that we manufacture are all made out of tooling’s and are absolutely correct.
We are in the manufacturing of British and American motorcycles parts for over 4 decades.
And almost all the dealers worldwide know us and buy from us.
We apologise that we cannot offer you at that price.
If burton bike bits are offering you at lower price, then we recommend that you buy from them.
thanks
regards”

I am sure they must be talking of all the other repro parts that come out of India and supplied by other dealers???
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Old 12-10-2012, 05:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I think that a great deal of stuff is made in India.

I know that auto cycle have loads of dies/machinery and make guards for various trade outlets but won't deal with the public.

IMHO if Burton are selling Indian tanks as UK made, that is an offence under UK law, but yoou shouldn't take the Indian guy's word for it.

I'd argue about the 10% - all my stuff (spares) is generally Tricor England and Harris. I believe that the stuff is made here.

There's also a company called Restoration Spares. I gather that it has a new owner (the last guy had a reputation ) they are at shows and sell repop tinware but dunno where it originates from.

That said, I wouldn't argue that some stuff doesn't fit - but the markup on some stuff is huge
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Have a look at page 33.
Ignore the date of the catalogue.
http://www.armoursltd.co.uk/catalogu...rCatalogue.pdf
Most of these are around the £50 mark. [+ postage]
Needs a bit of drilling.
Have a word with them, they ask lots of questions so that you get the right type.
sales@armoursltd.co.uk
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http://www.burtonbikebits.net/rear_mudguards.htm

states that only Universal guards are non UK made.

So it's a case of who do you believe. ( I've been happy with Burton Bike bits)
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"Secondly hardly 10% of the entire motorcycle parts range is manufactured in UK, rest all is manufactured in India or other parts of the world. "

I would take that with a pinch off salt,true a lot of stuff is made overseas now,but a lot is still made in the UK.
As for Indian made parts,I would only use them if there was no other viable alternative,
as the quality of the vast majority of Indian made parts is so substandard that they are only fit for the scrap bin, but you may be lucky and get the odd half decent part.
If you do decide to use Indian made parts then you best source them from a UK based retailer.

That way at least you can send them back as I do not think it would be financially viable to return them to India.

Also the main UK based outlet for the Indian made rubbish has shut shop and moved back to India,
so any dealer foolishly wishing to buy there parts have to send direct to India.
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who was that?
(the main uk based outlet)
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who was that?
(the main uk based outlet)
"Eversure"
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Have a look at page 33.
Ignore the date of the catalogue.
http://www.armoursltd.co.uk/catalogu...rCatalogue.pdf
Most of these are around the £50 mark. [+ postage]
Needs a bit of drilling.
Have a word with them, they ask lots of questions so that you get the right type.
sales@armoursltd.co.uk
Hey thanks guys some great replies here!

Caulky thanks very interesting and I will do a bit more research on this one. You say see page 33 but there is only 22 pages?
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Hey thanks guys some great replies here!

Caulky thanks very interesting and I will do a bit more research on this one. You say see page 33 but there is only 22 pages?
This PDF file is numbered so that the pages can be printed and made into a booklet.
Page 33 is opposite page 8.
Scroll down about ten pages.

I buy my pipes, silencers, tyres, mudguards, etc here.
This is their homepage:
http://www.armoursltd.co.uk/Armours/Home/Home.html

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http://www.burtonbikebits.net/rear_mudguards.htm

states that only Universal guards are non UK made.

So it's a case of who do you believe. ( I've been happy with Burton Bike bits)
I have recently had a message from Danny at Burton Bike Bits http://www.burtonbikebits.net/ regarding this thread, who has confirmed to me that “. I can assure you 100% that we do not buy any of our mudguards from Partsparadise51 or anybody else in India and all of our guards apart from a few universal ones are made in ENGLAND. We make great efforts to source as much as possible from the UK as we believe this is where the best quality lies for our particular market, it is only as a last resort we have items made abroad”. So that is really good news also at good price for those who are interested at getting UK made parts. I personally have bought front mudguards from Danny and in fact the photo on his webs site displaying the ’59 front fender is one that was supplied from Burton Bike Bits, painted here in NZ and fitted to my ’59 Bonnie. It was 3 years ago that Danny listed my bike as bike of the month for December 2009: http://www.burtonbikebits.net/Bike%2...he%20month.htm
A while back I was troubling him for parts prices on a ’59 that I still haven’t receive from the US. Danny doesn’t know it yet but HE IS GOING TO HAVE TO re-price all those parts once it arrives.
As for Partsparadise51 I have sent them enquiries and questions and they don’t even reply so I don’t know how one can do business like that.

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