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Old 12-07-2012, 10:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Help please... Is it worth it?

I've been searching around for a vintage triumph for A WHILE. I just came accross this well restored 1970 triumph trophy tr6c. They're asking 4k for it. Is that a good price to pay?

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Old 12-07-2012, 10:45 AM   #2 (permalink)
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a bit more info!?

Bikes seem cheap in the US compared to the UK
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Dave, this is the bike:

http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/mcy/3418590495.html
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Running, with clean title? Fair deal.

P.S. - it is NOT a TR6C (650cc), It's a T100 (500cc, single carb).
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Old 12-07-2012, 12:46 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Something doesn't ring true about this advert. It looks part-restored, not genuinely 8000-ish miles. That footrest rubber shown in one pic is on the wrong side, therefore new (and wrongly fitted), but an original wouldn't be worn out in 8000 miles. Is that paint scheme right? I could well be mistaken as 500s aren't my thing, but I thought all had a two-tone paint scheme.

$4000 is about 2500, which would be at the cheap end of the scale here in UK, and if it was here, it would probably be worth it for a matching numbers example as long as there's nothing wrong with it (nothing expensive anyway). If I'm mistaken about the non-original aspects of this one, ignore me totally. If I'm right, I'd be suspicious, simply because the seller is being less than honest (or maybe whoever he bought it off was?)
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I love the fact that it's called an "antique".

By definition, this means it should be more than 100 years old.

But then, there aren't that many things as old as that in the States, as was demonstrated by the American tourist who asked why Edinburgh castle was built so far away from the airport.
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...But then, there aren't that many things as old as that in the States, as was demonstrated by the American tourist who asked why Edinburgh castle was built so far away from the airport.
A gem! I suppose a dim English tourist might ask an American why so many places kept their Native American names while the people who'd lived there forever were being forced off their lands?
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Not restored to stock condition, but a very nice looking bike. Looks like a real nice "rider".
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Thanks for the help guys. I'm new to vintage triumphs so really appreciate your take on this.

About the tr6c thanks for correcting me. Again new to this...
In regards to the paint scheme, i also can't find any pics of trophies with non dual color scheme paint. I guess it wasn't that well restored.

I'm definetely looking for a rider but also for aomething as authentic as possible. I'll try to go check it out. Not like i can really judge correctly but at least i'll see it in person and see if it would be worth it just to enjoy the hell out of it.
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Gray top seat is from the mid-60's. This bike could be nice to look at and that's it.

Look closely and make sure it is mechanically correct. Parts and Service manuals are available on-line so you can look in the parts book and determine which major parts might be wrong.

Make sure the numbers on the engine match the frame. If not, then it is a bitsa bike, made from parts and as pretty as it looks, it's just an assemblage of parts and the value is whatever somebody is willing to pay.

A nice original 500 is worth maybe $2500 in the US. They just don't sell like the big twins. Maybe worth more in warmer climates, but not in the northeast.

If the numbers match, then mechanical condition is key here. Paint color is a detail that can be fixed. If it runs well, guy has receipts for engine work, everything is straight and correct, it's a decent bike to consider. You'll spend more than $4K making a roach into a nice rider. But to make it correct, you need a correct seat. The one on the bike may be a repop seat pan so not worth much more than the cover and foam. Side cover and oil tank should be painted black. As for the foot peg rubber mentioned here, remember, this is Miami. You could put a new bike out in the sun for a year and all the rubber parts would look like a dry riverbed. So that does not concern me.

Subtract whatever you need to make the bike correct from the purchase price and that is what you should pay for it. So repaint, new seat and probably a few other details. If the numbers don't match, then it is a very pretty bike of very little value. You never get your investment back from a restoration unless it is a very rare bike. Any by rare, I mean Crocker, Brough and so for. 500 Triumphs are not rare.

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