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12-06-2012, 10:32 PM
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SuperSport Main Motorcycle: 1999 T'Bird Sport
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Rangiora, New Zealand
Posts: 1,319 Extra Motorcycle: 1977 T140
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Cam Shafts (Timing)
Have had the cams timed, with the exhaust being ground to the same specs as the inlet-this is how it all panned out with 020" tappet lift.
44/77-106.5deg and 83/38-112.5deg plus their is another notation-
110C/L .020 ex not sure what this means.
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12-06-2012, 11:19 PM
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Moto Grand Prix Main Motorcycle: Rickman T120
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Victoria Australia
Posts: 2,915 Other Motorcycle: T160,TR6
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Checking the cam timing at 0.020" lift is almost a waste of time.Check it at 0.080" lift.
0.020" lift figures are not reliable.If they happen to be accurate,your intake lobe centre is 106.5 degrees:advance it 4.8 degrees and it will run better.
112.5 is a little much on the exhaust.If the 0.020" figures agree with 0.080" figures,retard the exhaust 4.8 degrees.
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12-07-2012, 04:25 AM
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SuperSport Main Motorcycle: 1999 T'Bird Sport
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Cam Timimg
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Pete
Checking the cam timing at 0.020" lift is almost a waste of time.Check it at 0.080" lift.
0.020" lift figures are not reliable.If they happen to be accurate,your intake lobe centre is 106.5 degrees:advance it 4.8 degrees and it will run better.
112.5 is a little much on the exhaust.If the 0.020" figures agree with 0.080" figures,retard the exhaust 4.8 degrees.
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Well time will tell, not every one is an expert and, experts are sometimes only in their own mind! Further to that, I trust my Guy, he has ground more cams than I have had hot meals, cam timing to him is second nature. He was not the least bit interested in mucking around with .080" and did it his way. All I have read on the net is"020" is all good.
Not changing anything, and as above time will tell!
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12-07-2012, 05:18 AM
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Supersport 600 Main Motorcycle: bsa bushman
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forget all that clearance nonsense, set the cams off the lobe centre, T140 inlet profiles are the same as norris z cams and spitfire, they will work well set at 102' on both cams.
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12-07-2012, 05:30 AM
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98 intake lobe centre makes good torque at mid-range;102 makes a little more power,but less mid-range.
102-103 on the exhaust will give good maximum power.Anything up to 110 will give better results at low rpm and mid-range,but a little less maximum power.
If you read the article I wrote in "Vintage Bike" earlier this year,you'd know why it's better to check lobe centre at a higher lift.0.020" lift can be misleading ;0.050" or even 0.100" lift gives a better picture of the true lobe centre.
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12-07-2012, 12:52 PM
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Formula Extreme Main Motorcycle: T110 Triton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lovecuba
Well time will tell, not every one is an expert and, experts are sometimes only in their own mind! Further to that, I trust my Guy, he has ground more cams than I have had hot meals, cam timing to him is second nature. He was not the least bit interested in mucking around with .080" and did it his way. All I have read on the net is"020" is all good.
Not changing anything, and as above time will tell!
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So what exactly are you asking for in the first post, if not opinions like Mr P's?
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12-07-2012, 03:10 PM
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SuperSport Main Motorcycle: 1999 T'Bird Sport
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Cam Timimg
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Originally Posted by Triton Thrasher
So what exactly are you asking for in the first post, if not opinions like Mr P's?
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Fair comment TT. A tad bad mannered in my reply to Mr Pete and an apology is given.
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12-07-2012, 04:37 PM
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Formula Extreme Main Motorcycle: T110 Triton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lovecuba
Fair comment TT. A tad bad mannered in my reply to Mr Pete and an apology is given.
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Nah- it's good enough for him!
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