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Old 10-27-2012, 09:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Need help ASAP to take clutch out

Hello,

For a 76' Bonneville :



Everything was smooth sailing until then. I got the clutch' nut out no problem. But the washer below will not budge. I tried penetrating oil, tapping it around with a bolt, tapping the basket, making a dent in the washer to try rotating it a bit with a blow from a sharp screwdriver, more oil, trying to push the basket out with a crowbar ( be cool, I didn't use brute force here ! ). Nothing works. There is a bit a space on the outside of the washer, but NONE on the inside. It almost look like the washer wrapped itself around the center bolt threads. It is maddening. Why would Triumph make a washer so freaking tight in the first place ??????

I have seen on YouTube that a few folks have had trouble with theirs as well....but it always came out. NOT MINE.

Please, I BEG you for a miracle way out. It is really driving me mad.

Thanks.

Terry
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Old 10-27-2012, 10:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Try this:
Use Mr. Pete's idea of pulling the clutch centre out of the splines with 1/2"washers in place of springs under the plate screws and pulling the clutch lever. Should pop right out. See picture of clutch on my thread here:
http://www.triumphrat.net/classic-vi...nd-plewsy.html

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Old 10-28-2012, 02:38 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Once you get the cush-drive of the clutch-hub splines,you should easily punch the washer out from the inside.
Grind a little off the inside or outside of the washer,so it won't happen again.
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Old 10-28-2012, 03:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks guys but that didn't work. I guess that stupid washer has wedged itself into the bolt's threads, and it will keep the clutch basket from coming out. I tried again to drill a hole in the washer, but after wearing three new bits and barely making a dent, I gave up.
Any suggestions ?
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Old 10-28-2012, 03:27 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Hi Froggy,

Get yourself some cylindrical mechanic's magnets and a can of Dust-Off air in a can.

Turn the can upside down and spray the washer with a blast of freon to cool and contract it.
Use both magnets to pull the washer out.
Good luck!
Try rapping all along the washer first with a brass drift to break loose the corrosion holding it.
BTW, that's a pretty thick washer.
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Old 10-28-2012, 03:42 PM   #6 (permalink)
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If it is in there then it can come out. It needs to be perpindicular to the threads to have the best chance of freeing up and not get jammed again. Can you press the clutch centre back tight against the sprocket housing and then push the sprocket housing back against the cover plate? there should be a bit of play there. Get a pipe that will fit over the mainshaft threads and gently tap the washer back against the clutch centre. Once it is flat against the centre, use a pair of magnets to try and get washer out or keep it flush against the back of the centre and try again with Mr. Pete's set-up with washers instead of springs and clutch lever.

Edit: Ha! I did not see your post Morris when I wrote. Good ideas.

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It looks like you're going to need something more serious.
Santalum made up a puller,something like a harmonic balancer puller that bolted on by the 3 spring nuts.http://www.triumphrat.net/classic-vi...roblems-2.html

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Old 10-28-2012, 07:08 PM   #8 (permalink)
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It looks like you're going to need something more serious.
Santalum made up a puller,something like a harmonic balancer puller that bolted on by the 3 spring nuts.http://www.triumphrat.net/classic-vi...roblems-2.html
Thank you Mr.Pete. I will ask Santalum if he can get me a photo of his custom made puller.
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Old 10-28-2012, 09:49 PM   #9 (permalink)
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At last ! I got it !

Man, was I getting frustrated. I don't loose my cool, but the level of swearing goes way up !!!!
Anyhow, I tried all you guys' suggestions ( thanks for them ) but nothing seemed to work. I even tried to epoxy a socket to the washer....but that lasted about 1/4 second before it failed.
I decided to try a variation on Mr. Pete's idea with the clutch's cover. But instead of using the rod and the clutch cable to push the basket out, I put a bolt into the clutch shaft, bolted the cover to the 3 spring bolts without the springs with a pile of washers and used a good strong bolt setup in the center hole to push against the clutch shaft.
It worked perfect and the basket popped out...with the stupid washer still in place. Now I can drive it out from the inside.
Thank you all, especially Mr. Pete.
So relieved, it hurts !
Terry



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Old 10-29-2012, 06:38 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Excellent news Froggie - and very useful to us all to post the pics and detailed info, in case anyone else has that problem. Good luck with the rest of the work!
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