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Old 04-15-2004   #1 (permalink)
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What forks should be on a '73 or '74 TR5T? Are they the same as T140 forks, or are they different, since the bike is an enduro?

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I would expect them to be pretty well different as the TR5T had a front drum brake and the T140 a disc.



A Japanese guy on a British bike.. what's that all about :???: :-D

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Shame he can't spell Triumph though? Great looking bike.

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OK, that is pretty obvious, isn't it! I just had a DOH! moment. Would they have been different from a T100 or T120 also?

That guy with his bike looks justifiably pleased with himself. His bike is proof of his good looks, good taste, and intellegence! Those things translate well into Japanese. :razz:
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Oops, I was stuttering. Another DOH! moment.

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There is a fair chance that the forks would have been fitted to something else, there was a lot of commonality with Triumph (and BSA) parts. The rear lamp, indicators and switchgear look to be the same as the T140. I bet there is a lot of stuff common with the BSA B50 MX

But, and this is just a guess, the high level fender suggests that the fork legs would not have fender mounting lugs so if that's the case then they probably are not the same as Triumph road bike forks. The tubes and internals might be the same.
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That is useful information, since the bike I will be looking at on Saturday has a low front fender. If there are lugs cast into the fork legs, I can use that as a negotiating point. The painted low front fender doesn't look as good as the polished high one. Finding one of those might be a long term quest.

For what its worth, the bike probably does have the minimal mileage it is advertized as having, but it has had some bits removed and replaced. The fenders are both painted black, the rear fender stays and turn signals are missing, as are the front turn signals. The current owner polished the yellow paint off of the tank, so that has to get repainted. He also said that it had a bigger brake on the front, so it may have had a T100 front end on it. He scrounged up a front wheel with the silly little 6" front brake from somewhere, so at least that is right. The taillight doesn't look quite right. But, it is a '74, so it is a refugee from the blockade, and it might be a factory bitsa for all I know. The engine cases look completely unmarked, and the patent badge on the timing side is unfaded, unchipped, and unworn. The cases are still matte looking instead of polished like most people seem to think is necessary when restoring these bikes. So, it is a strange combination of fresh out of the crate and hacked up. It will be interesting to see what the VIN number is.

I welcome any and all information that anyone has on that particular model, since I will see one for the first time ever on Saturday! If it is what the owner says it is and he accepts an offer, I will have even more questions.
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There's a chance that the '71-on drum brake 650cc model forks are the same as the TR5T's. Any chance you can get hold of a parts manual, or older dealer/supplier to ask? The factory was in dire straits at that time and using existing parts would seem to have been required.

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On Slinky's pic you can just see the fender mounting lugs and they are used to fix the brake anchor plate to. You can see the forward one just below the spoke nipple. The position of the lugs look just like those on my T140.
There is something different about the bottom cap beneath the wheel spindle; it looks deeper than my T140.
I think I'm right in saying that the TR5T was the only 500 to have aluminium fork legs from 1971 along with the 650's, so almost certainly they were common to another model. The other 500 bikes had steel fork legs until production stopped.
The lower fork legs could be T120 although the stanchions look longer; I think the dia was the same at 35mm.

I've just corrected this post. I said T140 but should have said drum brake T120 which would have been '71-'73. The T140 had the disc brake from start of production so would have had the lugs to mount the caliper.

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I looked at the bike yesterday. It has a low mounted fender that uses the lugs on the fork sliders as mounting points. It definately has T140 forks on it, since the disk brake lug was there on the right side.
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