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06-04-2012, 05:50 AM
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Grand Prix 500 Main Motorcycle: 1974 T120
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Derry, NH USA
Posts: 108
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Amal or Mikuni?
I want to replace my carbs, Should I get new Amal or Makuni?
And why? On a 1974 T120V...
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06-04-2012, 08:09 AM
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SuperStock Main Motorcycle: 1978 T140v
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 218 Other Motorcycle: 2010 Bonneville Extra Motorcycle: 1972 Honda SL350 Custom
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Amal have a bad reputation. Unless you are build a to spec bike I would go with Mikuni or Keihin PWK.
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06-04-2012, 09:04 AM
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World SuperBike Main Motorcycle: 72 TR6 100,000 miles
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ft collins, co
Posts: 1,926 Other Motorcycle: 73 t150 Extra Motorcycle: 73 TR7RV big bore
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Mikuni or Amal?
I have run Mikunis on several bikes over many years and am very happy with their performance ,problem-free nature, and durability. I have a new Amal with the hardened slide (not chrome) and stay-up float kit on my 73 TR7RV and am very pleased with that. I got it direct from Burlen. I can't find any input on the new Wassell Amal-style carb. In general, I like their products a lot. The Amal Mk2 is similar to the Mikuni. My buddy is going nuts trying to tune his BSA 650 with the cheap Asian Ebay carbs. Mikunis don't mate up with stock air cleaners. Mikunis have a richener, not a choke, and mine start well in cold or wet conditions. Bob
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06-04-2012, 10:43 AM
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Member
Supersport 400 Main Motorcycle: 1966 T120R
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Wessex
Posts: 85 Other Motorcycle: BSA B50SS Extra Motorcycle: Yamaha XT600 43F
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The latest Amals, especially the Premier carbs, which I have on my T120 are very good. After 1000 miles there are no marks at all on the hardened slides, the pilot jet comes out for cleaning without removing the carb and float levels are easy to set with the stay-up floats. They worked straight out of the box, just set the idle and go.
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06-04-2012, 10:56 AM
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Grand Prix 250 Main Motorcycle: Triumph Thruxton
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Alaska/Arizona
Posts: 78 Other Motorcycle: 1974 T150V
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How much did those new Amals cost and did they fit as a direct replacement for the old concentrics?
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06-04-2012, 11:21 AM
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Member
Supersport 400 Main Motorcycle: 1966 T120R
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Wessex
Posts: 85 Other Motorcycle: BSA B50SS Extra Motorcycle: Yamaha XT600 43F
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They cost £109.99 each here in the UK.
They are identical to the old concentrics except for materials and the new pilot jet so they are a direct replacement.
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06-04-2012, 01:14 PM
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World SuperBike Main Motorcycle: T120V
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Isle of Wight England
Posts: 2,335 Other Motorcycle: 1960 Tiger Cub
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arbeach
Amal have a bad reputation.
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Have they?
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06-04-2012, 02:05 PM
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Member
Grand Prix 250 Main Motorcycle: Triumph Thruxton
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Alaska/Arizona
Posts: 78 Other Motorcycle: 1974 T150V
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The only problem I ever had was when a small piece of the slide on a 441 Victor broke off and went into the cylinder. It rattled around in there while I rode it home. Every once in a while the piece would jam in the exhaust valve and hold it open. I would coast to a stop and when I kicked it over the piece would fall out and I could start the bike and continue on home. A rather bizzare carb failure that was because of vibration fatigue. My fingers still tingle from that bike and it has been 20 years.
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SUCK,SQUEEZE,BANG,BLOW.
Repeat as necessary up to redline.
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06-04-2012, 02:39 PM
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Site Supporter Commentator Main Motorcycle: '67 Triumph Bonneville
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Laredo, Texas
Posts: 8,794 Other Motorcycle: British Iron Extra Motorcycle: Dreer Norton Prototype
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arbeach
Amal have a bad reputation.
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Most of the "bad reputation" is from those who are unable to properly clean one, and install a rebuild kit.
The rest is due to wear between the main body and the slide, which can be cured with a re-sleeve and new hardened slides.
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06-04-2012, 02:40 PM
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Member
Supersport 400 Main Motorcycle: 1966 T120R
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Wessex
Posts: 85 Other Motorcycle: BSA B50SS Extra Motorcycle: Yamaha XT600 43F
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I've known of bits breaking off when the slides are very worn and get thin. I can't imagine it happening with the anodised slides which look like they will outlive the carburetter. If I wipe them over they are like new, no marks, no grazes, no scuffs!! After 1000 miles a standard slide or a plated slide would have already acquired some scratches and wear marks.
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