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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 03-21-2012, 06:29 AM Thread Starter
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1964 Tiger 100SS with matching numbers

Hello,

I have recently purchased a 1964 (possibly 1963) Triumph Tiger 100SS and I'm planning on doing a full restoration on the bike. It is in average condition considering the last time it was ridden was 1984, she needs work but is a complete bike and all there.

My Dad found out that the Bike was registered on the 12th July 1963
and the Frame Number is: T100SSH3058L and the engine number is the same
except it's 'C' and not 'L' ( T100SSH3058C ). Could anyone tell me what the 'C' and the 'L' stand for?

I had a look on a website with regard to engine and frame numbers but it appears that my bike has a letter instead of a number as the last digit. Is it likely that my bike is a 1963 model even though it is the 1964 shape (i.e. non-bakini frame)?

I have some photos of the bike and I can add to this thread. I collect the bike on Friday so these are the only photos I have. The bike has the log book and original workshop manual, the guy I'm buying the bike off bought it in 1978 and last rode it in 1984, since then it's been stored in a shed.
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If the bike was registered in 63, it was made end of the 62 production year, or at the start of the 63 prod year. The year went from August to july.

Are you sure that the L isn't a hard to read C?
I read your numbers as 63

I don't know the differences between the frames but if the bikini frame is different, it's slight and a PO might have junked the panels for a more "modern" look.
I assume that as the rear subframe is bolt on, it could have had damage and the rear end swapped out. Easy to refit or keep as is.

Looks like a nice project. Do you know rockerbox in Wrecklesham?
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Nice find. I have some questions though, #1 what is a bikini frame?, #2 what size is the headlight and #3 is that tach cable with the 90 degree angle drive correct for the year, I was under the impression the angle drive didn't start until 66. hope you don't mind me asking but I picked up a 65 and have been having trouble finding answers. Most of the info I found has been conflicting.

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Hello TT.
As Dave M has said it looks like a '63 bike which shoud have a 5 figure number. Nelson (Triumph Tiger 100/Daytona) says 1963 numbers started at H29733 and ended H32464.
It also looks as if it was "updated" at some time in the past and lost its mini enclosure. A shame as they were quite attractive and not as imposing as the full bathtub.
If you would like a copy of the pages from Nelson,give me a PM with your postal address and I will send them on. There is a reasonalbe view of both the '63 and '64 SS.

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Here is a link to a site showing a bikini rear fairing bike:
http://www.motorcyclerestorationcomp...photo-gallery/
The frames below were pretty much the same.
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Hello Guys,

Thank you all for your replies and useful information. I don't actually pick the bike up until tomorrow but I was told the frame and engine numbers from the logbook. Either he told them incorectly or the DVLA have them incorrect. Until I get the bike in my garage I can't confirm the numbers.

It looks to me like it is a '63 bike but has a later rear subframe and I also think the seat maybe incorrect for a '63 bike as there seems to be a bit of a gap between the front of the seat and the tank.

I got the bike for a very good price so I can't be that picky!

My Dad and freind John are always going to autojumbles and have a big knowledge of classic bikes, they maybe able to tell more once we get the bike home. I'm only 34 years old and plan to take my bike test this year, so this is a long term project. The plan is to put her back to as original as possible but this will take time.

I've been brought up with Classic bikes as my Dad and friend are such keen enthusiast, I've never had a bike licence or owned a bike so I thought it was time (midlife crisis??)

My 2 young Children keep me and my wife very busy so it's just a matter of finding time to do it (and it WILL happen )

Once I get the bike home I'll confirm frame/engine numbers.

All the best and thanks again
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Hello Guys,

Thank you all for your replies and useful information. I don't actually pick the bike up until tomorrow but I was told the frame and engine numbers from the logbook. Either he told them incorectly or the DVLA have them incorrect. Until I get the bike in my garage I can't confirm the numbers.

It looks to me like it is a '63 bike but has a later rear subframe and I also think the seat maybe incorrect for a '63 bike as there seems to be a bit of a gap between the front of the seat and the tank.

I got the bike for a very good price so I can't be that picky!

My Dad and freind John are always going to autojumbles and have a big knowledge of classic bikes, they maybe able to tell more once we get the bike home. I'm only 34 years old and plan to take my bike test this year, so this is a long term project. The plan is to put her back to as original as possible but this will take time.

I've been brought up with Classic bikes as my Dad and friend are such keen enthusiast, I've never had a bike licence or owned a bike so I thought it was time (midlife crisis??)

My 2 young Children keep me and my wife very busy so it's just a matter of finding time to do it (and it WILL happen )

Once I get the bike home I'll confirm frame/engine numbers.

All the best and thanks again
Welcome to the forum, and good luck with your project.

Here's a suggestion that was given to me, that I've found useful in relation to long term projects:

Do something every day, even if it's only five minutes.

Some days the five minutes will extend to a couple of hours; that's all to the good. If you keep niggling away at it, the project will get done, and you'll be surprised how quickly.

There are many good supliers around for parts for these bikes, and the prices are reasonable compared to modern bikes.

Cheers,
Neil.

We can't always control what happens to us.
What we do about it is always up to us.
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Here is a photo of the seat, it has a sloping back to it. Not sure if it's the correct seat or maybe it is. I need to do more research. Sorry it's a poor quality photo

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DVLA make cock-ups all the time.

I recently had to exchange a "modern" V5 for a new one, and they managed to make my address look as if it was typed by a dyslexic Pole. I can't understand how what should be a transfer of DATA from the computer to a new printout can involve so many typo's! Yours can just be a matter of faded handwriting being transcribed badly.

I agree with the idea of doing something - even if it's only 5 mins.

The bike looks fine as it is, the bikini panels are pricey and I can't tell if the oil and dummy oil tank are the originals or later.

The saddle's easy as it's probably the incorrect one and a new one is £100-150 all in.
http://www.classicbike.biz/Triumph/Triumph.htm

I'd buy/print out a manual and TWO parts books. Keep one in the garage and another by your pc to shop with. As you strip the bike, bag and photograph bits and tick off the book. So yopu can see what you have
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