'72 Bonnie - from finding to buying, to fixing up, to riding... - Page 197 - Triumph Forum: Triumph Rat Motorcycle Forums
» Main Menu

Discussion Forums
 » Twins
 » Tiger
 » General
 » RAT

Features
 » Blogs

Motorcycle.com Links

Contribute
 » Photo

Motorcycle Forums
» Insurance
» Sponsors
» Our Partners
»ATV Reviews
»Motorcycle Games

Classic, Vintage & Veteran For Coventry and Meriden Models. Anything pre-Hinckley goes.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-06-2012, 05:09 PM   #1961 (permalink)
Lifetime Premium
Site Supporter
World SuperBike
Main Motorcycle: '72 Bonneville 5-speed
 
gatornapper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Woods of Virginia
Posts: 2,013
Other Motorcycle: '09 Harley CVO FLTRSE3
Extra Motorcycle: '97 Harley Wide Glide
HA! The stories here on what happens when you loan - or borrow - things are so great they deserve their own thread!!!!

My old rule was the only things I wouldn't loan out were my chainsaw and wife. That list has expanded greatly over the years....all due to experience.

I do borrow things from others, (but rarely since after being a general and electrical contractor I have almost every tool under the sun) - but my rule is simple:

If I borrow something from you, it's going to be better when I bring it back than when I borrowed it - and noticeably so. A vehicle? your tank will be full and it will be washed - at a minimum.

A machine? I'll find something that needs adjusting or repair - and fix it. Or, I'll find a way to modify or improve it - but only do so with your permission. Or I'll buy an accessory for it to give you when I return it. Something.

My bikes were different. I taught most of my kids to ride. Riding for us is a family activity, and all my kids but one enjoy it. We have our own group rides - it's just something we do together. How could I not let my kids ride my bikes? The '09 CVO Road Glide? No, too big and heavy, but I have let close friends with Touring Harley's ride it, including my brother who lets me ride his Road King when I'm in Naples.

So I'm adding my old Trumpies to my "no ride" list. They are just too unique and valuable, and not toys.
__________________
gatornapper

My sweet '72 T120V Bonneville
'73 Trident T150V, '72 Bonneville T120V, '71 Trophy 500 T100C
"A Dream Collection" (w/apologies to all '60's purists)

Last edited by gatornapper; 12-06-2012 at 05:13 PM.
gatornapper is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 12-06-2012, 05:18 PM   #1962 (permalink)
Lifetime Premium
Site Supporter
World SuperBike
Main Motorcycle: '72 Bonneville 5-speed
 
gatornapper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Woods of Virginia
Posts: 2,013
Other Motorcycle: '09 Harley CVO FLTRSE3
Extra Motorcycle: '97 Harley Wide Glide
Snakeoil -

Your story about the Browning shotgun is the best example I've ever heard....one to tell to others for sure.

And your story about the Ferrari 308 is too. A wealthy good friend refused to drive my Cayman even though he could buy several. Said he didn't want to have to pay for it if he damaged it. Yeah, you shoulda bought it. Sold it later. I've done it before, when young, but now I won't borrow/drive anything of others that I'm not prepared to replace. I think that's wisdom. And wisdom only comes with age - and experience....
__________________
gatornapper

My sweet '72 T120V Bonneville
'73 Trident T150V, '72 Bonneville T120V, '71 Trophy 500 T100C
"A Dream Collection" (w/apologies to all '60's purists)
gatornapper is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-06-2012, 05:19 PM   #1963 (permalink)
Senior Member
Formula Extreme
Main Motorcycle: '77 TR7RV Tiger 750 (UK)
 
Rathlindri's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Ireland
Posts: 544
Other Motorcycle: '78 Guzzi Spada SP
Quote:
Originally Posted by gatornapper View Post
rob-


can't tell you guys how good it is to be back. Didn't know how much you guys mean to me until i start seeing these replies.


group hug????
we missed you too!!

Rathlindri is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-06-2012, 05:22 PM   #1964 (permalink)
Lifetime Premium
Site Supporter
World SuperBike
Main Motorcycle: '72 Bonneville 5-speed
 
gatornapper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Woods of Virginia
Posts: 2,013
Other Motorcycle: '09 Harley CVO FLTRSE3
Extra Motorcycle: '97 Harley Wide Glide
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rathlindri View Post
group hug????
we missed you too!!
:-) :-)
Rathlindri -

Thanks! I'll take it!

Wow, is it good to be back home with friends....forgot how warm and fuzzy it is here.......

I'm also beginning to miss my Bonneville.....but Ray may not get it finished until after deer season.....
__________________
gatornapper

My sweet '72 T120V Bonneville
'73 Trident T150V, '72 Bonneville T120V, '71 Trophy 500 T100C
"A Dream Collection" (w/apologies to all '60's purists)
gatornapper is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-06-2012, 09:30 PM   #1965 (permalink)
Senior Member
Formula Extreme
 
Tiger Dale's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Southern Maryland
Posts: 724
Well Richard welcome home. Nice to see you post, sorry for your troubles. I rely on Startron for ethanol balancing. Research it. I personally don't think it had anything to do with that. It's obviously a timing problem. You are running points as I recall. Lucas...the Prince of Darkness doesn't just apply to lights.

I remember as a lad in a Triumph shop working on my bike in the service area, which was allowed if not encouraged. My friend the service mgr. was a brilliant ex national racer sponsored by Triumph/Bsa in the late '60's. Brilliant wrench. Being financially challanged and racing sportsman events, I would always be borrowing everything from tools to silicone sealer, Loctite etc. from him. One day I asked for a tube of something or another, and he said (very cheerfully) Sure Dale you can borrow it, but let me tell you something, When I need something.....I buy it. But please use whatever I have. I felt like **** , but learned a lesson from a great friend.

Another wisdom I was told, Never lend your car or girl........both could have a rod thrown in them.

Sail Smoothly Gator,

dale
Tiger Dale is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-06-2012, 10:45 PM   #1966 (permalink)
Senior Member
World SuperBike
Main Motorcycle: 1970 Bonneville
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Dearborn, Michigan
Posts: 2,143
Hey GN,

Sorry to hear about the holed piston but, I guess that Porche 911 should keep you happy in the twisties until your Bonnie comes back from the shop.

Cheers,
Henry

PS. I often think back to the Lasgana post
henryanthony is online now   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-07-2012, 12:46 AM   #1967 (permalink)
Lifetime Premium
Site Supporter
World SuperBike
Main Motorcycle: '72 Bonneville 5-speed
 
gatornapper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Woods of Virginia
Posts: 2,013
Other Motorcycle: '09 Harley CVO FLTRSE3
Extra Motorcycle: '97 Harley Wide Glide
Quote:
Originally Posted by henryanthony View Post
Hey GN,

Sorry to hear about the holed piston but, I guess that Porche 911 should keep you happy in the twisties until your Bonnie comes back from the shop.

Cheers,
Henry

PS. I often think back to the Lasgana post
Ah, it's so good to hear from so many of you - nobody's changed a whit. That's good. Remember now, it's only a lowly Cayman Base, but it will out-handle some of the 911's because of the mid-engine. And yeah, it's a blast, but it's still a cage and isn't over 40 years old.

Have you tried the best lasagna in the world recently? We had it last weekend, and it was so wonderful. Everyone should try it once. but you will likely be hooked.
__________________
gatornapper

My sweet '72 T120V Bonneville
'73 Trident T150V, '72 Bonneville T120V, '71 Trophy 500 T100C
"A Dream Collection" (w/apologies to all '60's purists)
gatornapper is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-12-2012, 11:15 AM   #1968 (permalink)
Senior Member
Powerbike
Main Motorcycle: 1972 TR6RV Tiger 650
 
75jazz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Rock Hill, SC (just south of Charlotte, NC)
Posts: 394
I hope you find a good answer as to why your piston holed, because I never did! Fresh rebuild for me, and I blew a piston not long after. Had it redone again, and so far no problems but I know that feeling of mistrust after an incident like this. Let all my buddies redline down the highways around me, I'm going to take it smooth and easy listening intently! It's been about a year now, so I'm starting to relax a bit.
Good to see you back on the board though! Hope that new garage is nice and warm and ready for a winter build break in!
75jazz is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-13-2012, 09:50 AM   #1969 (permalink)
Lifetime Premium
Site Supporter
World SuperBike
Main Motorcycle: '72 Bonneville 5-speed
 
gatornapper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Woods of Virginia
Posts: 2,013
Other Motorcycle: '09 Harley CVO FLTRSE3
Extra Motorcycle: '97 Harley Wide Glide
Quote:
Originally Posted by 75jazz View Post
I hope you find a good answer as to why your piston holed, because I never did! Fresh rebuild for me, and I blew a piston not long after. Had it redone again, and so far no problems but I know that feeling of mistrust after an incident like this. Let all my buddies redline down the highways around me, I'm going to take it smooth and easy listening intently! It's been about a year now, so I'm starting to relax a bit.
Good to see you back on the board though! Hope that new garage is nice and warm and ready for a winter build break in!
Hey, Jazz - good to hear from you - and also glad to hear I am not alone in the holed piston experience.

But wondering if I am the record holder for holed pistons in same bike in shortest time frame?

Yeah, gotta go through the whole break-in process again, so it will be slow and easy for a while - but that will be next spring.

Garage presently has no heat, so if it's below 50, I'm not out there. We replaced our main 3 1/2 ton heat pump (10 SEER) over a year ago with a new Trane 20 SEER unit, and as the old one was working fine, kept it for the garage. An HVAC friend will be installing in in the garage in January for next to nothing. I won't use the heat strips, but only the heat pump - just enough to take the chill off in the garage (we are insulating it now) when it's between 50 and 32 outside. I'll never set it above 60 and only use it when I'm working out there.

If I didn't have the unit, I wouldn't heat the garage.....to much $$$$........
__________________
gatornapper

My sweet '72 T120V Bonneville
'73 Trident T150V, '72 Bonneville T120V, '71 Trophy 500 T100C
"A Dream Collection" (w/apologies to all '60's purists)
gatornapper is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-14-2012, 08:01 PM   #1970 (permalink)
Senior Member
World SuperBike
Main Motorcycle: '72 Bonneville
 
RetroRod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Queensland, Australia
Posts: 2,024
Other Motorcycle: Suzuki GSX1400
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rathlindri View Post
group hug????
we missed you too!!

A nice sentiment Rath, one that all contributors to this blog will agree. Gator has certainly been the lynch pin to this wonderful thread that has wandered onto every topic known to man.

A personal welcome back from me too Gator.

Like you Richard, I have been quiet lately due to ill health and despite having two lovely bikes in the garage, have rarely been out.

80% of motorcycle accidents occur when the rider is unfamiliar with the machine s/he is riding. Not loaning the bike could save a life.

Detonation killed the piston and it's a topic beyond the scope of this modest post. Fuel is major factor, and it seems you guys cannot access ethanol free fuel at 98 octane, which is available here still, but for who knows how long.

Spend some time reviewing threads here and on the britbike forum where you'll find a wealth of knowledge about detonation, initial bedding of the rings, and running the engine in.

In the absence of high octane leaded fuel, these old engines are very susceptible to detonation which places pressure on all aspects of tuning and riding style, to avoid holed pistons.

Like others here, I do hope you'll be back on the Bonnie soon, as they really are a joy to ride, despite the many problems we encounter with them. RR
__________________
"A cynic is a blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, and not as they ought to be."
Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914)

http://www.reinstatehank.org/
RetroRod is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Triumph Forum: Triumph Rat Motorcycle Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter your valid email address, that can receive an automated confirmation message. Otherwise, you won't be able to gain full access.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Need Help Finding A Rubber Tank Pad For My 2009 Bonnie! DarkBonneville Twins Talk 4 02-07-2010 06:31 AM
The Trophy is Running Beautifully - Riding Beats Fixing FasTriumph Trophy 1 09-14-2009 12:29 PM
Fixing a leak in my Bonnie fuel tank (VIDEO) Plewsy Classic, Vintage & Veteran 6 06-28-2009 08:00 PM
buying my first bonnie meanolddog Twins Technical Talk 11 08-02-2007 11:10 PM
Riding Boots...need help finding good ones PA-guy Twins Talk 28 04-07-2006 07:57 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:33 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Motorcycle News, Videos and Reviews
Honda Grom Forum Harley Davidson Forum Honda 600RR Kawasaki Forum Yamaha R6 Forum Yamaha FZ-09 Forum
1199 Panigale Forum Roadglide Forum Honda CBR1000 Forum Vulcan Forum Yamaha R1 Forum Yamaha R3 Forum
Ducati Monster Forum Harley Forums Honda CBR250R Forum ZX10R Forum Star Raider Forum Yamaha Viking Forum
Suzuki GSXR Forum V-Rod Forums Honda Shadow Forum Kawasaki Motorcycle Forum Star Warrior Forum KTM Duke 390 Forum
SV650 Forum BMW S1000RR Forum Honda Fury Forum Kawasaki Versys Forum Drag Racing Forum Ducati 899 Panigale Forum
Suzuki V-Strom BMW K1600 Triumph Forum Victory Forums Sportbikes BMW NineT Forum
Volusia Forum BMW F800 Forum Triumph 675 Forum MV Agusta Forum HD Street Forum Suzuki GW250 Forum
Yamaha Motorcycles Victory Gunner Forum Honda Vultus Forum HD LiveWire Forum Ninja H2 Forum

Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.