Triumphrat

jim05

hello jim05 here ah does anybody no how maney miles before sludge trap needs cleaning i change oil every 1000 miles went 11000 or more hate ta cook it now iam wanting to take this beast ta fla from wereever it gets above 45 or 50 degrees bummen in mi.snowww:

stewdog68

this is a hard one to answer.

1. do you know if it has ever been cleaned?

2. if oil comes oil clean or very dirty a oil changes?

3.type of oil you use cheap or good stuff?

4. my answer is if bike runs great and shows no signs of it need in rebuilt leave alone until a problem comes up where its not much more work to take apart and clean.(new bearing or rering etc.)

5. to clean trap you also have to look into gaskets,bearing, rod bolts,maybe machine work, rings, vavles etc.$$$$

if its not broke dont worry or you will go broke trying to fix nothing.

thekeyman

If it has been running on modern detergent oils rather than straight mineral oils for the last twenty years , l would leave alone. l am led to believe that detergent oil doesn't allow the sludge trap to work properly as l suspends it better to reach the filter ( which most olduns don't have). As previously stated wait for rebuild time.

jim05

ya i rebuilt this thing from sludgetrap out last winter from 4 old bikes iav been callecting new everthing i dont like that way of thinking preventve maintance is key on these old bikes i run like its a 09 dont need touble 1000 miles from home whats the deal with detergent oil iam running 20/50 val. bike oil it says. but iam going to airplane 50 or 60weight this year. i do half ta take head off an replace 1 valve guide it backed out i was going ta thrw a new set of rings in but didnt really want to take moter out would like ta no more about oil though thanks

shrugger

Wow! A Yupper accent SOO thick, it actually translates to print.

Am I to understand you've rebuilt this motor last year?
Pulled and cleaned the trap while you were at it?
Add a Norton or Trident oil filter. Detergent oil will probly
double the miles to fill the trap. A filter will quadruple (or more)
the amount of miles.
And 20/50 oil is what you should run.

At 11k on the clock. My trap was about 60% filled. It had never been
pulled, so it spent many of those miles with non detergent oil.

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jim05

ya i can just abont see canada from my garage. now ya no why i want ta cruise ta fla. 8 degrees today but i half ta make it there an back with no troubles i hope. i did clean trap last winter used ezout to remove works great but it was full.iam usen a oil filter out of a s10 the kind that mount under hood just putting it on now running out of room the oil gets offal black soot cant be good thats why i change it at1000 miles.is that trident filter small ill try ta find picture on ebay. thanks that makes me feel a little better iam not going ta worry about that ill put rings in an fix my head an the way ill go if anbody see's a old choped bonne on side of road stop please might need help thanks shrugger happy new year

shrugger

Nice how-to and filters that will fit the Norton adaptor. Found here.
http://www.gabma.us/page2.htm

And the Trident style. It can be mounted in a couple places.
http://www.triumphrat.net/classic-vi...il-filter.html

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jimballard

Believe it or not, it has been stated "way back when" that the detergent oils will fill the trap quicker than the non-detergent ones, as they keep the contaminants in suspension instead of them getting "stuck" to the inner walls of the crankcase. The theory was that the engine was its own filter all those years ago and when the obligatory 20,000 or so mile tear down was done, one would clean the sludge from the inside of the engine which was left by the non-detergent lubes. It would be nice to find out that it's not true, believe me. I added a filter to my '70 some 20 or more years ago in hopes of avoiding problems...so far, so good (now, having said that..........!!) Don Hutchinson, who's one of the Triumph "gurus" in the Northeast simply says to change your oil often, every 1,000 miles or so, and it should be fine. I've tried to do mine every 500, but never any more than 1,000.

Oil is still the cheapest thing you can put into a motor: Jim

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