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Old 12-27-2009, 11:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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longshot: wire list for 76-78 harness? Any Triumph twin?

Maybe there is someone who already went though the harness dissection and has a 'required inventory list' of wire by color needed to fabricate a new harness?

I have Boyer and other non-OEM switched etc. to custom wire but a raw wire material list would sure be useful. I don't want to buy 50 feet of each color...nor do I really want to dissect and inventory, but I will.

Or I'll buy an inventory of several plain colors and draw a new diagram for posterity...

Engine rebuilt, frame coated, now going back together!

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Old 12-27-2009, 01:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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When I rewired my Bitsa project, I couldn't find the correctly colored wires locally. I didn't really try very hard since I am also runing Sparx ignition and rectifier/regulator, the stock harness was going to be modified anyway. I just made up a new diagram with the new different colored wires. Sorry, but I didn't measure what I used. Probably wouldn't help much anyway since I relocated where components were attached in the system (ignition switch, light switch, coils, regulator/rectifier, EI box have all been relocated).
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When I rewired my Bitsa project, I couldn't find the correctly colored wires locally. I didn't really try very hard since I am also runing Sparx ignition and rectifier/regulator, the stock harness was going to be modified anyway. I just made up a new diagram with the new different colored wires. Sorry, but I didn't measure what I used. Probably wouldn't help much anyway since I relocated where components were attached in the system (ignition switch, light switch, coils, regulator/rectifier, EI box have all been relocated).
So what you are trying to say is "You're no freakin' help!!!!" :-P

I'm red/green colorblind, so I'm a big fan of wiring numbers. You can go to an electrical supply house and get a book of peel and stick wiring numbers that you can attach to mating wires/terminals. Ths would allow you to get one spool of wire and wire the entire bike with it. Just a thought if keeping costs down is a goal. All black wire would also help make it disappear on a black frame.

I still use wire numbers even though I can drag the wife out to help me with the colors. Some diagrams have errors and putting the numbers on each wire before I disconnect certainly makes life easy when I reconnect them.
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I bought some white heat shrink and wrote the name of the component the wire was to be connected too with a fine black Sharpie before slipping it over the wire and crimping the end on. When heated the letters shrink too but are still legible. I rubbed them and they seem permanent. I guess you could do numbers if you wanted to.
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I just re-wired my 68 Bonnie. I bought a NOS cloth harness and am running Sparx EI and alternator. So, at least 33% of the original wires arent used. I also add my own ground wires to a single point (SPG).
If I was to do this again, I would buy the NOS harness, cut the cover off it, strip out all the wires I dont need, add the new EI and alternator wires and Ground wires, then tape it all up!!!
Hope this helps.
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So what you are trying to say is "You're no freakin' help!!!!" :-P

I'm red/green colorblind, so I'm a big fan of wiring numbers. You can go to an electrical supply house and get a book of peel and stick wiring numbers that you can attach to mating wires/terminals. Ths would allow you to get one spool of wire and wire the entire bike with it. Just a thought if keeping costs down is a goal. All black wire would also help make it disappear on a black frame.

I still use wire numbers even though I can drag the wife out to help me with the colors. Some diagrams have errors and putting the numbers on each wire before I disconnect certainly makes life easy when I reconnect them.
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Hi Rob,
I'm colourblind too, although I don't have too many problems with the wire colours provided I have good lighting (I normally keep a small flashlight close to hand!) Your idea about the numbers is a good one, the same system is used in aircraft wiring, normally all the wires are white.

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Great tips. Thanks guys. I'm actually looking fwd to getting into the wiring, something therapeutic about it for me.

I'll use numbers on white or yellow heat shrink so I can just add numbers to the wiring diagram if I override a color code.

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Hi Rob,
I'm colourblind too, although I don't have too many problems with the wire colours provided I have good lighting (I normally keep a small flashlight close to hand!) Your idea about the numbers is a good one, the same system is used in aircraft wiring, normally all the wires are white.

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I can't take credit for it, Webby. I've spent my career in the Power Plant industry and everything is by wire number. When I was a kid, I fried a few things on a 450 Honda because I tried to reconnect everything by myself. When the smoke cleared and I dug into my pocket for the few new parts, I embarrassingly asked my Mom to come out and help me reconnect the wires.
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