Triumphrat

Skunk · 08-07-2009, 10:13 PM

Just bought a bunch of boxes with what looks like a bike in there.
T120RDU79821 or just 7982 I'm working off the reciet. Any idea what I bought? He said a 67 650? Thought he had a title, but it was a parts bike he bought when they quit making them? and could'nt find it. I could post some porn, but you all seen boxes of bits before. Thanks, scott

oldroadie · 08-07-2009, 10:17 PM

According to this:
http://www.tioc.org/serial_numbers.htm
it's a 1968 in that parts box you've got.

CaptCubbio24 · 08-08-2009, 07:12 AM

Interesting

Skunk · 08-08-2009, 09:01 AM

a 68, thank you.

What is interesting?

GrandPaulZ · 08-08-2009, 11:34 AM

Interesting, in that '68 is arguably the most sought-after year of Bonneville. '69 and '70 have the modified crankcase breather setup that shares crankcase oil (I consider that a "minus"), but they also have the best front brake of the "old" Bonnies (a "plus").

Still, it's the last of the timed breather Bonnies, and a very fine year.

You'll want to have AT LEAST the following in your collection of bits & bobs:

Frame, forks (at least the bottom legs with bottom clamps, stanchion tubes, top caps, (4) bushings, shuttles & retainers, restrictors, dust cups, abutments & springs), swingarm, yokes, kickstand & centerstand with springs, shocks

Gas tank, front & rear fenders, (3) front fender mount loops with (2) "ear" tabs, rear mount grab bar and strap bracket, sidecover & oil tank with lower mounting bracket, headlight "ears", chainguard

Wheels (hubs at least), axles, chain adjusters, nuts, front & rear brake assemblies, rear brake torque arm, brake lever & trunnion with brake rod & adjuster

Crankcases & crank, rods, cams, cylinders, (8) 12-point base nuts, (4) tappets, (4) pushrods, (2) pushrod tubes, head, valves, valve springs, head with valves, springs, retainers & intake manifolds, head bolts (4 long, 4 short and one medium/thin), rockerboxes with inspection caps, rockers & hold-down bolts & nuts

Clutch basket, hub, center assembly, 20 tiny cylindrical rollers, clutch plates, (3 each) springs, cups & adjusters, pressure plate with adjuster screw & nut, primary chain, alternator rotor & stator, engine sprocket and primary cover with screws

Timing gears, oil pump, ignition assemby (points with advancer or electronic rotor & stator), timing cover & screws

Tranny gears, main & lay shafts, shifter forks with (2) tiny ring rollers, shift camplate and plunger with spring, cover with screws, shifter assembly with springs, plunger teeth, hold-down plate & nuts, kickstarter gear with spring, kicker, kickstart ratchet gears & spring, clutch ball & ramp assembly, clutch rod, and shifter

Carbs, air cleaners, exhaust pipes & mufflers with hangar brackets & clamps, engine/footpeg mount plates, footpegs, brake pedal, handlebars with (2) P-clamps, clutch & front brake levers, meters & mount plate, battery tray, (2) battery tray mount brackets

Coils & mount plates with ring clamps, Zener diode in "finned egg" heat sink, round plate type rectifier, wiring harness, headlight, tail light, keyswitch, horn/dipper switch, light switch, (3) indicator lights with bezels, ammeter, brake light switches

Of course you still need a parts book & shop manual for any of this to make sense; but if you have all of the above, and a large coffee can full of nuts, bolts and washers, it's a good start.

Skunk · 08-08-2009, 07:43 PM

these parts

and these parts

and these parts too

almost forgot this part

Skunk · 08-08-2009, 07:44 PM

But what are these parts?

And I wonder if I have the smparts to do this......

Oh GP I dont think there in order..?

jimmy bush · 08-08-2009, 10:53 PM

It appears you have a mix of parts from several bikes. I see a gas tank, air box parts and rocker box covers from an OIF (oil in frame) bike. From the photo, yours appears to be a 68 or earlier. The earlier bikes had CEI & BSF threads in the cases and covers. Triumph switched to UNF threads in 69-70 so anything after that had these threads. You need to check the threads carefully before using the mixed pieces so you can get the right hardware. As far as the two pieces in the last photo, they may have been used in place of the shocks. They appear to be about the right length.

Skunk · 08-08-2009, 11:24 PM

I had wondered about those being struts. Dang heavy ones, if they are. I saw the difference in tunnel sizes and thought they may be OIF. Man did ya feel like typing today Grandpaulz?

Thanks, I'm not sure I have ALL the parts you mentioned, but, I have some. Thanks jimmy for the heads up on the different bolts. Going down monday to see what hoops they want me to jump through, for the title. Need to get that straightend around first. I have some badges that say 750? And that tank signed Bonneville is kinda cool...

jimmy bush · 08-09-2009, 12:46 AM

I think Triumph went to 750cc in 73 so those badges are from a 73 or later. One of your cylinders might be from a 750, check the bores to see if one is considerably larger. You might be able to build a "BIG" Bonnevile. The rocker boxes with the stud in the top are for OIF frame. They use a different head stay than your frame. I didn't see a rear frame section in the photos. Is yours missing? The blue tank is for the OIF, the red tank goes with your frame. Which one has Bonneville on it? The head with the valves installed is for a single carb set up, not a Bonnevile. The coil tray with the coils is from an OIF. The plate where your coils is supposed to mount has been cut out of your frame and it looks like the front tank mounts have been cut off too. It is hard to tell from the picture. The guy was probably going to build a hard tail chopper. That may be why your rear frame is gone. They just bolt on so it's no big deal. The black swing arm is for your bike, the grey one is OIF. Good luck & have fun.