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Old 07-05-2009, 05:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi All,
I know this has been covered before but just in case anyone out there is thinking of not cleaning out their sludge trap if they do not know the history of their engine.
The first photo shows the trap in the crankshaft after I removed the plug, the second shows the sludge I removed before removing the sludge trap from the crankshaft. My bike had 23k on the clock, I don't know if it's genuine but judging from the lack of wear in the rest of the engine I would say it is.

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Old 07-05-2009, 06:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Note to me, must do sludge trap!
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Old 07-05-2009, 06:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi Plewsy,

I'm not sure if you need to, you've had your bike from new so you know how often you've changed the oil etc. It's for you to decide
Anyway I'm sure a man of your talent could do an engine rebuild in a weekend

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Old 07-06-2009, 07:35 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Now then Webby, shes well due a strip down and I have a set of cams to go in, I know the ones in it, where worn 10yrs 60000ish miles ago,
so while I'm in there I may as well check the lot
If I vid it, I'd have to add weeks to the rebuild time will I vid it...probably
In for a penny in for a pound!
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Thanks for bringing this up Webby. I picked up a 77 this past winter with just 25k on the clock. If yours looks that way with 23k on it maybe I need to rethink my approach for this bike. -Steve
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Old 07-06-2009, 02:05 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Hi Steve,

As I said the history of my bike (& engine) is uncertain, it was bought as a box of bits so I'm guessing that the milage is correct as all the bearings are good, the big end shells are like new and its only on a +0.020" rebore with very little wear. I don't want to cause a panic, but certainly if you're taking the engine out for anything else the sludge trap is worth doing.

Hi Plewsy,

60000 miles in 10 years!...that's more than I've done on my speed triple in 11 years.(OK, I used to travel a lot for work)
It would be nice to see a vid, I've got a few tips (as it's still fresh in my head)
You will need a impact driver and a LARGE hammer with a good quality tight fitting screwdriver bit.
Use something like a 1/8" drill to drill out the centre punch (not too deep)
Use a vice with some aluminium jaws to protect the crankshaft.
The screw is TIGHT, I had to remove it with the impact driver for almost 3/4 of its length. (the last 1/4 came out easily)
I've read of many ways to remove the sludge trap tube (slide hammers, tapping a thread and pulling it out etc.) The easiest I found was to hammer a chisel into the tube and then give it a couple of turns with a pair of vice grips, once the tube will turn easily it should just pull out (you should be able to reuse the tube)
I suggest wearing some plastic gloves once you get the screw undone. I didn't, and am still trying to get the 40 year old oil off my hands! (should be gone in about a week )

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I have taken a total of four sludge traps out since 1984. I can't remember how I removed them. Maybe I should have used rubber gloves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bikes got 11k on the clock. But it didn't work so who knows, it
could be double that.
Looks like it's completely plugged from this pic. but it was only
about 60% plugged. journels and rod bearings looked quite good
so it was still getting plenty of oil.
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Nice pic Shrugger!

Mine was the same, looked almost completely blocked but the journals & big end shells showed almost no wear.

Good Luck with your rebuild

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Also got the tube out in one piece.
Now, if only I could find a tube brush long enough to clean out all the
Silly putty.
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