Triumphrat

looseparts

Hello,

Where might I acquire the extractor(s) or puller(s) needed to dismantle my 650?

The Primary side was practically dry - maybe there was one ounce of watery sludge and the clutch plates were all stuck together. They all came out as a until. (see pic)

The free movement of the primary chain is 7/8 inch!

On the bright side, there were no broken piston rings or broken pistons.

The metal shavings in the drained oil might have come from the sheared-off clutch operating mechanism between the kick-starter and the shifter (pic)

Still digging - wish me luck!

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pookybear

Looseparts,

Anyone of the parts jobber listed on the web can supply the
tools needed. Just do a quick search on google for Triumph
parts suppliers.

Which oil are you talking about? The clutch operating mechanism
that is trashed in your photo would have only put metal shaving
into the transmission gear lube.

Pookybear

PS easy tip for the clutch springs next time, those slotted nuts
have a stop on the back side that engauges the top of the spring.
You can take a pocket screwdriver to push the spring down a
little to get the top of the spring off of the stop.

looseparts

Thank you Pookybear.
Thinking the shavings from the clutch operating mechanism had somehow made their way to the crankcase shows how little thinking I do sometimes. Thank you for your patience!

I tried the knife-under-the-slotted-nut trick (it's in the shop manual). Actually I tried several knives and other thin, stiff things, and what finally did it, was brute force. One knife was of the folding variety and at one point it folded - didn't get cut, just a scare. I could not for the life of me push the spring away from the slotted nut! With enough push and twist, a person can overcome the little stop on the back of the the nut. At times I evoked the name of my favorite nun in Catholic school... "MOTHER FLETCHER!"

The other two did not need the knife - they too came off, but for them, it was just a modest amount of force needed.

I came back from Napa with a couple of pullers that ain't going to work. I will do some on-line shopping for the correct items, but... Shouldn't we form a collective where we can pass a few of these special tools to one another as the need arises? How many of us need to buy and own a 'D2213 Camshaft extractor' to use it once?

If you need any special tools, check back with me in a couple of months - I'll loan you mine : -)

stewdog68

clutch side

well most will have to be replaced or you could go for a dry clutch setup.cost will be about same after you replace chain ,clutch etc.etc

choppedtriumph

looseparts: Not sure if this is what you are talking about. But I bought mine from Ebay. Gdluck

http://motors.shop.ebay.com/items/_W...osacat=__10063

looseparts

Perfect! I just bought one : -)

pookybear

Wow Looseparts,

Are you ever lucky, I really did mean a pocket screwdriver not
a knife! Never use a knife as a screwdriver. A pocket screwdriver
is a small flat blade driver with a pocket clip on it, maybe three
inches long in length.

However, glad you have all your fingers still, and furthermore
glad you got the slotted nut off.

And yes if you have shavings in your engine oil you need to do
some more looking.

And please be careful, that Triumph need you in good shape so
you can fix it and get it back on the road.

Pookybear

looseparts

Thank you Pookybear. I will be careful (I'm lying... being 5'5" and nearing 60, I probably should not have lifted that entire 650 'unit' off the floor onto a chair and then off the chair and onto my rolling workbench - but I did - and now it's on the bench ; -)

I may not have read your instructions correctly regarding using a pocket screwdriver (although that was in my arsenal) and not knowing that the word 'knife' might mean something different in the UK I tried to follow the manual (scan attached).

Unlike my second wife, I *hate* the sight of my blood and will try to avoid all trips to the band-aid box.

I thought of a perhaps a good tool for removing the pressure nuts - would a golf shoe spike wrench do it? Maybe I'll try that on the putting-back-on part.

Once again, I offer my heartfelt thanks to the Triumphrat forum community. You're so very helpful!

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pookybear

Looseparts,

Try a drag link socket for the slot in the nut.

Pookybear