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HiDesert

Personally, I don't think so. There was lewd graffiti on the walls of the toilets in Pompeii. The people who would have been in the Flavian Amphitheater in 100AD are watching real war videos or actual rapes on youtube today.

The preceding invitation to quibble, debate, nitpick, and bicker is brought to you by the most recent gun law thread.

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chisel

We will not change until we become altruistic and willing to accept the responsibility of it.

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welshrob

Changed since when? Also your question would also depend on whether you believe in Adam and Eve or the theory of evolution.

Human nature controls the society in which we live and since we have been on this planet, we have moved from a hunter gatherer society, to an agricultural society to an industrial society to a technological society and our nature has changed to suit.

Yes, most of us still have the same lower level functions ie 'fight or flight' and we are also still prone to tribalism and warrior mentality. That`s the 'lizard' within us, a throwback to our early beginnings but they are under a greater level of control than they have ever been.

However our reason, communication compassion, sympathy and empathy has developed greatly since we first learned to walk on our hind legs. Or since we left the garden of eden, if that`s what you choose to believe. Human life has a much higher value than it ever has before, even in a lot of third world countries, so IMHO, yes, human nature has changed.

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richb

Alas, wish I could agree, but think 'the lizard' is alive and kicking in places like Darfur, Gaza, Somalia etc etc. Anywhere where there is a fight for basic resources, water, land, food, the lizard pops right back up as if it has never been away.
I'm not sure how we can ever hope to sublimate that animal nature without a more equable division of resources, but that's another thread.
Then again...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...im-789363.html

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MVP44

No I don't think that choice is available to us. Since sin first entered into the world man has had the selfish desire to put individual before others. Our ability and desire to fight both this selfishness and the pride it stems from are the choices that drive us toward good or toward evil.

Human nature has remained a constant. We just see that same nature manifested in different ways as times and technology change.

Whisperinsmith

It will change only when (you, hehe) scientists change us.

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cafecruzin

Every one of us if in situations outside what you may consider normal now would do what we need to survive.
the abnormal becomes normal very quickly!

ask any soldier who has tasted battle and has
done things that hide in his mind.

ask any woman who has been brutalized

ask any child who has been abused

has human nature changed ?
.... unfortunately in my opinion, no! we have not fundamentally changed
we still in many cases use the same excuse of justice to gain revenge
we still blame the "other"
whether it be for colour ,religion,gender or political belief
we still gather in our tribes, our nations with the belief that my tribe is better than yours.
will our nature change ...only when we all can see that I'M the same as YOU .
I bleed the same blood
I cry the same tears
I feel the same pain
I love my children as you do
I have the same fears
I am Human

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KingBear

Obviously you have never taken a woman from being your girlfriend to being your wife.

Whisperinsmith

cafecruzin,
I think you'd better come to Bennington. There will be room on the couch. There is some emotion shown in that reply.

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Old Scratcher

I'm sure we'd all like to go to Bennington. But it's a long swim from Oz.
& when did this fabled Triumph-fest turn into a therapy session, anyway?

As for human nature, why would you expect it to change? We're still humans. Aren't we?
We don't expect dogs to stop being dogs, or sharks being sharks etc. & I'm pretty sure that they don't beat themselves up about their dog-like, or shark-like behaviour.
So why should we?

I'm glad human nature's so constant. It make sit easier to deal with.

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