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Archimedes · 01-24-2007

I am delighted to inform you that during the 13th Plenary Poll Of Hamsters Ink., it was decided that ABC Radio News was the News Station Of The Year. Close Second was CNN and ninety-third was Fox News.

The key criteria in determining the winner was the length of each newscast and how relevant it was to hamsters. It was felt that ABC was best because each news story only lasted for 10 seconds. Consequently after the third news item had been read each hamster said they couldn't remember the first. As such, they felt ABC was giving a service to hamstermanity - and their presentation enabled the hamsters to get on with other things.

Fox came close to last because they never ran any stories on how to clean feeder bottles and where to store one's nuts in winter.

Next Poll: Best hamster music software.

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Tbirdnz · 01-24-2007

Well I'm surprised Fox News made the top 100, we've had that a few months on SKY satellite TV and I can't believe people watch it. Must be one of the worse things to come out of the US. It shows your hamsters are more tolerant than me in placing it 93rd.

I place SKY News itself near the top, followed by one of our local TV stations then BBC/CNN.

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wenzel850 · 01-24-2007

Fox is just to slanted towards Bush and company. Which as we have seen of the Bush presidency, it is a total failure, so what does that say about Fox?

Arch as you can see your hamsters are far more tolerant than some of us older, and should be wiser people.

trypcil · 01-24-2007

Doesn't Murdoch own Sky satellite as well as Pox? :razz:

Archimedes · 01-24-2007

He does Tryp. In fact he owns the world but we've got to pretend he doesn't. I'll be delighted when he's dead.

Fox's dirty latest little scam was reporting that Barak Obama was educated in a terrorist school when six. They of course never bother checking and double checking and then verifying their source. O heck no, that would take up to much time.

:razz:

trypcil · 01-24-2007

Their conviction creates their truth, sad really! :razz:

Scrambler900 · 01-24-2007

The Bush bashers go to any length to make a joke out of anything right leaning , to include hypocritcal attitudes toward subjects (especiallly political topics, the Iraq war, etc.) which can and should be discussed with an open mind, rather than with a cynical, self-rightous approach. Taking a position on the "fair and open mindedness" of the right-leaning FOX News verses CNN, the BBC, NPR or ABC is just one example, in my humble opinion.

May I propose this? Let's leave complaints about the Iraq War and anti-Bush rethoric to us Americans on this forum, please, since we are primarliy involved with these problems, and we'll allow our continental bretheren to defend, make fun of, or explain your bizzare Lord Mayor of London, vegimite, George Michael and other peculiar things unique to your cultures. Is that fair?

It is amazing how this supposed "motorcycle" forum can quickly segment into little camps of "friends" with similar political views, who defend their group or attack the opposing side on topics related to liberal verses conservative political issues. I have a feeling that a huge number of forum members here have the same opinion as I do on this matter. Don't take for granted that the majority of fellow Triumph forum members here agree with everything having to do with real world, serious issues like that ***** war, gun control, or a democracy's political leadership, nor appreciate a narcissitic attitude about current world events. You know, many people with some particular view, for example if they actually do like and respect President Bush, can look upon an outsider's ridicule about Bush as a personal attack either on themselves, or about their own country. (Perhaps you UK fellows felt that way when I posed a question last week about my observation that the "F" word strikes me as more common in your society than I believe occurs in the States, for example. That was not an attack on you or your country, by the way).

It seems that the very most we all have in common here on this forum is our collective interest in Triumph motorcycles, but that is about all we might ideally hope to agree on.

As they say, don't visit your neighbors and plan to discuss politics or religion. Good natured fun and ribbing is one thing, but cynical ridicule about a serious issues involving politics is going too far. Maybe that needs to apply here with more regularity?

Just my opinion.

Archimedes · 01-24-2007

Tryp, It's actually quite frightening when one man can buid such an empire. Namely:

HarperCollins
Perennial
Cliff Street Books
The Ecco Press
Quill
HarperAudio
Regan Books
Amistad Press
William Morrow
HarperTorch
Eos
HarperEntertainment
HarperSanFrancisco
HarperInformation
HarperBusiness
HarperResource
Fourth Estate
Access Travel
William Morrow Cookbooks
Branded Books Program
HarperCollins Children's Books
Greenwillow Books
Joanna Cotler Books
Laura Geringer Books
HarperFestival
HarperTrophy
Avon
Tempest
HarperCollins International

Terrestrial broadcast, cable & satellite

United States

Fox Broadcasting Company
85% of Fox Entertainment Group Inc which includes ...
Fox SportsWNVW - New York City
KTTV - Los Angeles
WFLD - Chicago
WTXF - Philadelphia
WFXT - Boston
WTTG - Washington D.C
KDFW - Dallas
WJBK - Detroit
WAGA - Atlanta
KRIV - Houston
WJW - Cleveland
WTVT - Tampa
KSAZ - Phoenix
KDVR - Denver
KTVI - St Louis
WITI - Milwaukee
WOFL - Orlando
WOGX - Ocala
WDAF - Kansas City
KSTU - Salt Lake City
WHBQ - Memphis
WGHP - Greensboro
WBRC - Birmingham
WPR - Chicago
KTBC - Austin
KVC - Austin Fox Sports Net
Fox Sports South
Fox Sports Pittsburgh
Fox Sports Southeast
Fox Sports Midwest
Fox Sports Rocky Mountain
Fox Sports Arizona
Fox Sports Northwest
Fox Sports West
Fox Sports Detroit
Fox Sports Bay Area (with Rainbow Media Holdings)
Fox Sports Chicago (with Rainbow Media Holdings)
Fox Sports Cincinnati
Fox Sports Intermountain West
Fox Sports New England (with Rainbow Media)
Fox Sports New York (with Rainbow Media)
Fox Sports Ohio (with Rainbow Media)
Fox Sports Southwest (with Rainbow Media)
Madison Square Garden Network (with Rainbow Media)
FiT TV
The Health Network
Fox Sports World
FX
National Geographic's cable channel (50% with GE and National Geographic)
Golf Channel (33%)
The Family Channel
MTM Entertainment
Fox News Channel
FxM
Outdoor Life (34%)
Speedvision (34%)
TV Guide Channel (44% with Liberty Media)
34% of Hughes Electronics (satellite broadcaster DIRECTV with over 11 million subscribers in the US, 81% equity in satellite operator PanAmSat, and Hughes Network Systems)

United Kingdom

British Sky Broadcasting (40% - Vivendi may dispose of 24.5% of BSkyB)
Music Choice Europe (49%)
QVC (20%)
Sky Multi-Channels (over 40 channels, including the following in which BSkyB has an economic interest)
- .tv
- National Geographic Channel UK (50%)
- Paramount Channel (25%)
- Sky One
- Sky News
- Sky Soap
- Sky Travel
- The Computer Channel
- Nickelodeon UK (50%, with Viacom)
- The History Channel (50%)
- Sky Scottish (50%)
- Granada Sky Broadcasting (40%) - with Granada, now part of ITV
- Granada Plus
- Granada Talk TV
- Granada Men & Motors
- Granada TV High Street
- Granada Food & Wine
- Granada Health & Beauty
- Granada Home and Garden
- Fox Kids
- Premium Channels
- Sky Movies
- The Movie Channel
- Sky Sports
- Sky Movies Gold
- Sky Sports 2
- Sky Sports 3

Germany

TM3 (66%)
Premiere World - 24% (owned through BSkyB)

France

13% of Breton cable tv group TV Breizh (Berlusconi's Mediaset has 13%)

Italy

Sky Italia (inc Telepiu and Stream) pay tv operation

Australia

FOXTEL (25%) - with Packer (25%) and Telstra
- Arena (50%)
- Channel V (50%)
- FOX
- FOX History
- FOX Soap
- FOX Talk
- FOX Travel
- FOXTEL Weather
- FX
- Nickelodeon (25%)
- Sky News Australia (33.3%)
- UK TV (60%)
- Fox Sports
- The Comedy Channel (80%)

Asia

Star TV
- STAR Chinese
- STAR Plus
- STAR Movies
- STAR Plus Japan
- STAR Movies South
- ESPN STAR Sports (50%)
- STAR Sports
- Channel V (50%)
- Viva Cinema (50%)
Phoenix Satellite TV (17.6%)
- Phoenix Chinese

Canada

minor stake in CTV Sportsnet

India

ISKYB
Asia Today (50%)
ZEE TV
- EL TV
- ZEE Cinema
Siti Cable Network (50%)

Italy

Stream (minority stake)

Indonesia

Indiovision (46%)
Film Indonesia (50%)

Japan

News Broadcasting Japan (80%)
SkyPerfect TV (11%)

Latin America

Canal Fox
Fox Sports Americas (owned by Fox/Liberty Media)
Fox Kids
Telecine (12.5%)
CineCanal (21.5%)
Sky Latin America DTH Platform
- Innova (30%) - with Televisa
- NetSat (36%)
- Latin America (30%)

Magazines & Inserts

North America

TV Guide (partial)
TVSM
TV Total
Cable Guide
The Weekly Standard
Maximum Golf
In Store
FSI
In Store (Canada)
FSI (Canada)

UK

Nursery World - sold to Exponent Private Equity October 2005

Pacific

Pacific Islands Monthly

Film Production & Distribution

Twentieth Century Fox
Fox Filmed Entertainment
Fox 2000
Fox Searchlight
Fox Family Films
Fox Animation Studios
Twentieth Century Fox Home
Twentieth Century Fox TV
Fox Studios Australia

Newspapers

News claims to be the world's leading publisher of English-language newspapers, with over 175 titles in the UK, Australia, Fiji, Papua New Guinea and the US. It employs around 15,000 people worldwide, printing more than 40 million copies a week.

United States
New York Post

United Kingdom
The Times
Times Literary Supplement
The Sunday Times
The Sun
News of the World
Times Education (inc Times Education Supplement and Higher Education Supplement) - sold to Exponent Private Equity September 2005

Australia
The Australian
The Weekend Australian
The Daily Telegraph
The Sunday Telegraph
Sportsman
Herald Sun
Sunday Herald Sun
The Weekly Times
The Courier Mail
The Sunday Mail
Gold Coast Bulletin
Adelaide Advertiser
Cumberland Newspaper Group (20 titles in Sydney suburbs)
Leader Newspaper Group (30 titles in Melbourne suburbs)
Cairns Post Group (42%)
North Queensland Newspaper Group
Townsville Bulletin
Quest Community Newspapers (17 titles in Brisbane suburbs)
Northern Territory News
Sunday Territorian
Centralian Advocate
The Suburban
The Mercury
The Sunday Tasmanian
Tasmanian Country
Treasure Islander
Derwent Valley Gazette
Sunday Mail
Messenger Press Group
Sunday Times (Perth)

Fiji
The Fiji Times
Nai Lalakei (Fijian)
Shanti Dut (Hindi )

Papua New Guinea

Post Courier (63%)

sports

New York Knicks (20% stake through partnership with Cablevision)
New York Rangers (20% stake through partnership with Cablevision)
Los Angeles Kings (NHL, 40% option)
Los Angeles Lakes (NBA, 9.8% option)
Staples Center (40% owned by Fox/Liberty)
National Rugby League Championship (50%) - Australian football

radio

Analog and digital radio holdings include -

Sky Radio (71%)
Fox Sports Radio Network
Sky Radio Sweden (28%)
TALKCO (20%)
Radio Veronica (42%) - Netherlands
Sky Radio Denmark
Sky Radio Germany
Sky Radio Netherlands
ClassicFM - Netherlands
technology and multimedia

Technology and interactive holdings include -

NDS (formerly News Digital Services)
SiVenture - UK-based smartcard consultancy
News Advanced Technologies
News America Digital Publishing
News America New Media
News Internet Services
Healtheon/WebMD (11%)
TheStreet.com (partial stake with New York Times)
Rivals.com (46%)
iSyndicate (partial stake with Scripps, NBC, InfoSpace, Vignette, and Microsoft)
News Digital Systems (UK)
Line One (33%)
Sportal (5% through BSkyB)
Orbis - interactive gambling software
News Interactive (Aust) - including NEWS.com.au, CareerOne, AustralianIT, FOX SPORTS, CARSguide and RealEstate.com.au
PDN Xinren Information Technology (50%)
music

News has minor recording interests, centred in Australia -

Mushroom Records
Festival Records
outdoor advertising

News Outdoor Group (NOG), established in 1999 and headquartered in Moscow, includes -

News Outdoor Bulgaria
News Outdoor Czech Republic
News Outdoor Poland (Town & City)
News Outdoor Romania
News Outdoor Russia
Kamera (Turkey)
News Outdoor Ukraine
NOG is concerned with billboards, advertising on street furniture and bus shelters, airport transit advertising and in-store point of sale displays.

Other

Other holdings include -

Broadsystem - customer relationship management services (UK and Australia), one of the UK's top five telemarketing agencies
News Optimus - (formerly Broadsystem Ventures) telephony and telemarketing services
SmartSource Marketing - direct mail and in-store advertising, promotions and merchandising programs in Australia and New Zealand
NewsMarketing - direct mail and in-store advertising, promotions and merchandising programs in Canada
New America Marketing - direct mail and in-store advertising, promotions and merchandising programs in US
Convoys Group - UK newspaper distribution
PLD Telekon (38%) - Indonesia
Newspoll (50%) - opinion polling
Jamba (51%) - ringtones
Disposals in recent years include Australian pastoral company F.S. Falkiner & Sons (2000)

And there's even more!

Demagogue ir what?

:-D

Scrambler900 · 01-24-2007

Some might call that capitalism. Should we not be more worried about the following Reuters news story instead?

BEIJING (Reuters) - Chinese Communist Party chief Hu Jintao has vowed to "purify" the Internet, state media reported on Wednesday, describing a top-level meeting that discussed ways to master the country's sprawling, unruly online population.

Hu made the comments as the ruling party's Politburo -- its 24-member leading council -- was studying China's Internet, which claimed 137 million registered users at the end of 2006.

Hu, a strait-laced communist with little sympathy for cultural relaxation, did not directly mention censorship.

But he made it clear that the Communist Party was looking to ensure it keeps control of China's Internet users, often more interested in salacious pictures, bloodthirsty games and political scandal than Marxist lessons.

The party had to "strengthen administration and development of our country's Internet culture", Hu told the meeting on Tuesday, according to the official Xinhua news agency.

"Maintain the initiative in opinion on the Internet and raise the level of guidance online," he said. "We must promote civilized running and use of the Internet and purify the Internet environment."

In 2006, China's Internet users grew by 26 million, or 23.4 percent, year on year, to reach 10.5 percent of the total population, the China Internet Network Information Center said on Tuesday.

The vast majority of those users have no access to overseas Chinese Web sites offering uncensored opinion and news critical of the ruling party. But even in heavily monitored China, news of official misdeeds and dissident opinion has been able to travel through online bulletin boards and blogs.

Hu told officials to intensify control even as they seek to release the Internet's economic potential. "Ensure that one hand grasps development while one hand grasps administration," he said.

keef · 01-24-2007

Quote:

On 2007-01-24 15:43, Scrambler900 wrote:
The Bush bashers go to any length to make a joke out of anything right leaning , to include hypocritcal attitudes toward subjects (especiallly political topics, the Iraq war, etc.) which can and should be discussed with an open mind, rather than with a cynical, self-rightous approach. Taking a position on the "fair and open mindedness" of the right-leaning FOX News verses CNN, the BBC, NPR or ABC is just one example, in my humble opinion.

May I propose this? Let's leave complaints about the Iraq War and anti-Bush rethoric to us Americans on this forum, please, since we are primarliy involved with these problems, and we'll allow our continental bretheren to defend, make fun of, or explain your bizzare Lord Mayor of London, vegimite, George Michael and other peculiar things unique to your cultures. Is that fair?

As they say, don't visit your neighbors and plan to discuss politics or religion.

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