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India-built Triumph 250 Twin to break cover in 2014!

According to a news brief in the February 2013 edition of Bike India, Triumph's long-rumoured India-built 250 cc twin-cylinder motorcycle will be released sometime in 2014

Here is the news brief in full:

"RECENTLY THE ASIAN MEDIA went into a frenzy as Rudhy Siswanto, President, PT Global Motorcycle Trading, distributors of Triumph in Indonesia, was quoted as saying that Triumph were developing a 250-cc motorcycle, which would be produced at their new facility at Nasrapur, near Bengaluru in India, sometime in 2014. He further said that the Indian operations would focus mainly on producing small engines, which would be exported to other Asian countries like Indonesian.

Contrary to popular belief the 250-cc bike will not be a single cylinder one, but a twin-cylinder one. We suppose that the small capacity bike would be inclined more towards ride comfort and will not have entail a radical riding stance, keeping the demand in markets like Far East and India in mind. The styling would be attractive, but subtle, probably with just a single headlight rather than the expected twin-lights found on the Triple range.

The international price is estimated to be about USD 7,000 (Rs 4 lakh approx). Since it is scheduled to be manufactured in India, we may expect it to cost a lot less here."

Bike India, February 2013, Page 24.


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Seems like a good idea, market to the areas where 250 twins sell with the possibility of introducing a 125 single in europe/places they are learner legal. Although with all the licencing hoo ha in the UK at the moment I can't see any manufacturer wanting to bother trying to work out what can and cant be ridden and by who.

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Of course, KTM have stolen a lead on Triumph by having already introduced their very impressive and very cool India-built KTM Duke 200 street fighter




Unlike Triumph however, KTM chose not to build their own India-based manufacturing facility, but instead collaborated with Bajaj Auto who have a state of the art manufacturing facility at Chakan near Pune, India. Next month, KTM have announced the launch of the 390 Duke, also being built in India by Bajaj Auto. Both these bikes offer ABS and are built to international standards.

The new Triumph 250 cc twin will no doubt be in the same league! I can't wait to see it!!!


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Unlike Triumph however, KTM chose not to build their own India-based manufacturing facility, but instead collaborated with Bajaj Auto who have a state of the art manufacturing facility
John Bloor has stated on a number occasions that he does not do joint ventures.

Also Triumph has recently said that, whilst they have 9 new product launches in the next 18 months (this was last Oct), all are into existing market ares (product wise). If true, would seem to rule out a 250cc twin.
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John Bloor has stated on a number occasions that he does not do joint ventures.

Also Triumph has recently said that, whilst they have 9 new product launches in the next 18 months (this was last Oct), all are into existing market ares (product wise). If true, would seem to rule out a 250cc twin.
Because there's not an existing market for entry level bikes be it a CBR / Kawi 250 (including now the ex300) and things like the Rebel, Tux, or Shadow.

I think this will A) Help bring Triumph to the foreign huddled masses. B) Get more people interested here in the states for a small commuter bike. C) Put fuel efficient, commuter friendly smaller cc bikes in the hands of lots of European city dwellers that now use BMWs, KTMs, and Japanese brands for their daily drivers.


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Put fuel efficient, commuter friendly smaller cc bikes in the hands of lots of European city dwellers that now use BMWs, KTMs, and Japanese brands for their daily drivers.
In europe, because of tax, license. insurance issues etc, this market is almost exclusively 125cc and below.
License laws in europe are complicated and very strict. 250cc and 500cc do exist but sell in very, very small numbers. There is a minimum power as well as a maximum power for classes of license.
A new license class (A2??), due shortly will open up the market for bike around 500cc but currently there is no market for a 250 in europe and no sign of there being so. However, the 125cc market is huge.
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...European city dwellers that now use BMWs, KTMs, and Japanese brands for their daily drivers...
I would like to comment that I had 11 years of daily commuting on a T140, followed by 8 years of commuting on a 900 Trident and now have 4 years (and counting) of commuting on a Scrambler.

Triumphs are perfectly useable as working bikes, although the Trident was horribly expensive to run.
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...but currently there is no market for a 250 in europe and no sign of there being so. However, the 125cc market is huge.
Here is South Africa, the 125cc-250cc market is huge for commercial delivery bikes. In addition, the Honda CBR125R/CBR250R and Kawasaki Ninja 250R (and soon to be 300cc) are extremely popular motorcycles with the young guys wanting a road-based machine with sporty looks.

Don't these size bikes sell in the UK/Europe? And what about in the US?


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In the US, I know the 250 ninjas are very popular, but so are larger displacement bikes. Could be wrong, but I'm not aware of any restrictions on size based on age or license.

Because of the cult of HD, I bet there are lots of folks that start riding on liter bikes, and I see a lot of new (esp young male) riders starting out on machines that are IMO too much bike- GSXr's etc. I knew one person a few years ago that bought a Hayabusa before he even passed the MSF course... Passage of the course allows you to obtain your endorsement- at least in Florida.

Like most things in the US- if you have the means, you're free to do what you'd like.. I'm sure the market for smaller bikes is greater in developing countries where most folks don't have a lot of $, or where there are legal restrictions like I see there are in Europe- But here, if you've got the scratch, your first bike could be a Rocket III.

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Like most things in the US- if you have the means, you're free to do what you'd like...
I'm always so jealous of all you guys who live Stateside! "...the land of the free and the home of the brave" is what must make the US the greatest country in the world to live in!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe in my next life...

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