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Old 01-04-2013, 07:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm crying for you.

Down here in NSW.

We can have ANY after market exhaust system ticketed, depending on the copper's mood, even if the system is fully legal. You get a fine and have to take your bike to get a compliance certificate from the roads authority before you are legal again. If your cat is deficient or removed and they perform a "sniff" test on your vehicle - rare but it does happen - you may be up for a $10K fine.

I hear your point nonetheless.
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Old 01-04-2013, 08:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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A lot of the blame for this can go to the riders that are insistant on having extremely loud bikes under the mythical pretense that it is a safety issue. The goverment has shown that all the noise is reflected backwards and not forward. The other reasons some riders are insistant for wanting ungodly loud bike is that the reduction in back pressure supposedly increases power...of course if is minimal. That is one reason I love the Rocket quiet and plenty of power.

You have communities that do not allow bikes related to the noise. I don't have a problem my last two purchases are for bikes with plenty of power and that are quiet.
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Old 01-04-2013, 08:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
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A lot of the blame for this can go to the riders that are insistant on having extremely loud bikes under the mythical pretense that it is a safety issue. The goverment has shown that all the noise is reflected backwards and not forward. The other reasons some riders are insistant for wanting ungodly loud bike is that the reduction in back pressure supposedly increases power...of course if is minimal. That is one reason I love the Rocket quiet and plenty of power.

You have communities that do not allow bikes related to the noise. I don't have a problem my last two purchases are for bikes with plenty of power and that are quiet.
Yes, and in that representatives case she just hated bikes period. The law started as an emissions law and when she was told that was covered she changed it.

California voters put her and the rest of the anti bike leaders in office. They don't like the bill, vote those folk out.
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A lot of the blame for this can go to the riders that are insistant on having extremely loud bikes under the mythical pretense that it is a safety issue. The goverment has shown that all the noise is reflected backwards and not forward...
I recently bought a gently used 2012 Thrux after my Bonnie was rear ended in November. The Thrux came with a 2 into 1 Arrow exhaust and the dealer handed me the baffle which had been removed by the previous owner. Not terribly loud but louder than my stock Bonnie. Riding home on the same road I had just been rear ended on I noticed other drivers were keeping a respectful distance behind me. As soon as I put the baffle back in people were on my ass again. The difference was like night and day. So maybe the sound doesn't travel forward, but it gave me the distinct perception of increased following distances with the drivers coming up behind me. Maybe when people argue that loud pipes don't save lives they've been looking forward instead of behind them and that's where a safety advantage lies.

Of course none of this has anything to do with California, but it is an observation I've made over the last few weeks...
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Someone following too close that is in a car I think the loud pipes affect them minimally. For that I use the penny or nickel rule of thumb....which is to flick a penny or nickel up over my shoulder ....surprisingly they tend to back off....go figure...

Personally I find loud pipes loud to be intrusive....I don't like hearing them. It gives the appearance of someone saying hey look at me......esepcially when I am sitting at home or sleeping and I am disturb by an ungodly noise...by the way I am talking extremely loud shorty or straight pipes which in my opinion shoudl be outlawed...
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If it shuts up those straight piped idiots I'm cool with the law. I live on a corner with a stop sign and have an idiot neighbor with a twitchy throttle and straight pipes.
Noticed a few town with decibel level signs in NY (I think) last year.
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I have to say that a stone stock Bonnie has no real exhaust sound. Almost the 1st thing I did was to punch thru the baffles on the stock exhaust which made it real nice, the TORs made it better, just right.

And I do believe that there's so many loud Harleys all over the US of A that any other brand will not have a problem. Just have to make friends with a couple of Harley riders and laugh at them when they get pulled over.
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I came to a stop sign right behind a big garbage truck. In retrospect, I stopped too close behind the truck. All of a sudden he starts to back up (right on a city street). Heck with wimpy horn which I never use...crack the throttle...glad I had aftermarket pipes that day.

On the other hand, if I'm leaving on the bike at the crack of dawn (at least on a weekend morning), I'll push the bike 2 blocks to an empty school-yard and start it there...just common courtesy
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A lot of the blame for this can go to the riders that are insistant on having extremely loud bikes under the mythical pretense that it is a safety issue. The goverment has shown that all the noise is reflected backwards and not forward. The other reasons some riders are insistant for wanting ungodly loud bike is that the reduction in back pressure supposedly increases power...of course if is minimal. That is one reason I love the Rocket quiet and plenty of power.

You have communities that do not allow bikes related to the noise. I don't have a problem my last two purchases are for bikes with plenty of power and that are quiet.
LEE, I both agree & disagree with you. Yes, bikers who insist on running insanely loud pipes can only blame themselves for this....I do however disagree that the sound only goes backwards....I knew once I started seeing pedestrians 100 yards ahead of me turning around to see what the racket was that maybe my exhaust was too loud...I knew for sure when a HD rider with straight pipes tracked me down in a parking lot to jokingly complain how loud it was.
And any lingering doubts that remained were dispelled when an English lady told me at a trackday "Darren, your bike is SOOO f**king loud!" in a really posh English accent.

Exhaust sold!!

This law really won't change much...aftermarket ANYTHING is illegal on bikes here, we just rely on cops having better things to do....cops seem to agree.
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