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post #11 of 104 (permalink) Old 01-05-2013, 02:31 AM
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Total BS, I got my receipts for my D&D which was installed in 2012. People that don't believe having louder piped is safer for the rider has their heads up their behinds... I want people to know I'm in front or behind them.


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Better to always think of yourself as invisible, loud exhaust or not.
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Better to always think of yourself as invisible, loud exhaust or not.


While I am in basic agreement with the sentiments expressed here by Lee and believing that the airbox soundtrack of my BMC-equipped Daytona 955i on full chat is far more intoxicating, this recent vid was nevertheless a lot of fun to watch...


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The comments on the sound going backwards is not my opinion but the report or study done by the national highway traffic safety administration.
I also know from my standpoint doing a long day of riding especially when I ride for over twenty hours straight loud pipes can increase fatigue...so from that stand point they are a safety detriment. This is also true of excessive vibration.


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...straight loud pipes can increase fatigue...so from that stand point they are a safety detriment.
I once followed a friend on a KLR 650 with a modified open muffler. After 15 kms or so I had had enough! I knew where we where going and simply passed him before both my ears drum perforated!

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Sound definitely travels backwards BETTER than forwards: but it travels forwards too.

Plenty of drivers check their mirror after I slip down a cog and give it a quick blat.

It's not really saying much to tell us your Rocket gives you plenty of quiet power, Lee - it's nearly 2 and a half litres of donk. I've owned quieter cars with smaller engines than your Rocket.

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The law pisses me off because it is so clearly anti-motorcycle. I have no doubt the author simply doesn't like bikes and would happily ban them if she thought she could.

Want to be fair? Implement a standardized sound level test. Make it equal and applicable to cars, trucks, bike ... everything. And not just for exhaust - lets include stereos or anything else that's excessively loud. What you call noise I may consider music and vise-versa. I happen to find rap or hip hop blasting out of some hoopty incredibly annoying; the sound of a well tuned V8 pleasant; a fart can equipped ricer irritating; a triple with aftermarket cans lovely; a HD with flatulent straight pipes a pita, and on and on...

The only fair law would be a single standard universally applied, but that's not what this is now is it? This is simply anti-motorcycle descrimination.

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Loud pipes scream out, "look at my loud motorbike and not my incredibly small penis".



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This has been done to death on this forum so many times...

Might go fire the countersteering thread back up...
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This thread and the Australian cig tax thread are hilarious. You could write a "How silly can we be?" script for TV with some of the comments.

The refusal by some to believe the entire world does not love the sound of their loud, life saving pipes is unbelievable. We are a minority in the world and have a target on our backs. Go to any city council meeting when loud pipes are being debated and mouth off your "loud pipes save lives" crap and watch how fast they pass an anti bike measure.

The sin tax in Australia, whilst huge to some, will serve it's purpose and cause many, many to quit smoking. Think of the same type tax against motorcycles for "environmental, health (ruptured ear drums of the very old, scaring tiny children) and wasteful living".
These taxes are social engineering taxes meant to curb behaviors that the moral majority insist are wrong. They work up to a point.

This site if full of reports, studies and first hand experiences showing the general public does not care one iota for our bikes or life style. The unbelievable stupid stunts shown on you tube, ignorant comments quoted about safety of loud pipes will spell the doom of our hobby. You will be left with the electric motorcycle only in a few years. This cig tax is but a foot in the door to start the change of how we live. The anti smokers here on this thread are nothing in size compared to the anti motorcycle crowd.

Now before all the nay sayers bring up the booming Asian motorcycle growth I want to remind them they don't live there. they live in the USA, Europe and other forward thinking countries who are worried about "our health". (and tax revenue to pay for goodies)
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