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post #11 of 98 (permalink) Old 12-10-2012, 11:39 AM
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Agreed, to a degree. I think there's a little bit of golden nostalgia about that. I do remember being able to edit the BASIC programs, to put my name in games, or give myself 99 lives. I remember having to go through lines of code to get Win 3.1 to work properly, dropping out into DOS to do diagnostics.

That doesn't mean I'd want to go back there. I quite like the fact that my computer works every time I turn it on, and if it doesn't, it fixes itself (some of the time...)

By the way, do you remember when you could get computer game magazines that had the actual code for the computer games in it? You'd spend HOURS copying it all out, and then spend MORE HOURS trying to find the bloody spelling mistake or forgotten quotation mark which stops it from working...

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The mistake you made was to become one of Microsoft's beta testers, especially as they expect you to pay for the privilege as well.
+1 Exactly. I run Windows 2000 and 2003 server at work on the servers and Windows XP on all of the desktops. All are now completely patched and very stable. I never get new technology because I can get older technology that does 99% of what the new stuff does for a fraction of the cost and a fraction of the headaches.
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the operating system sucks. It's like it was written for children.
My first thoughts when I saw Windows 8 was that it was a collaboration between Microsoft and Fisher Price.
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Windows Vista was pitiful, but Windows 7 is the best operating system ever created by Microsoft.
Agreed. I dual boot my Mac with Windows 7 and I find it very stable.

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This good, bad, good, bad pattern is the bane of all mainstream software. The problem is once you have a software package out on the market and it's wide spread and popular....then what? You have to try and make it better and better. But each time you do there is less and less to make better than the times before. Until you get to a point where windows is, and a few other software programs and games that i know of as well. Once you're at this point of everyone having the old program and needing to find out a way to yet again gain more customers, you have to start taking risks with the new design. Adding in features no one has asked for hoping they become well received and liked. And you end up cutting out some things that people loved from the one before. After the consumer reviews are in and you know what people liked about the new one and didn't when compared to its predecessor, then you can come out with the next on that isn't doing a bunch of guess work. So I think its more of a risk taking business plan vs. safety and secure business plan rather than strictly good, bad, good, bad.

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I like Win 8 it was written for children just like Mac is! I don't see it as written for the enterprise but once users get used to it, it'll be good for them.
Kem I think you're in IT like me, so you need to understand that things is changing and people don't want complications or anything that makes them think, like iPads they are limited in ability because no one needs to do anything else.
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made the switch to a MAC with Lion. I really do not miss MS. Still need it for a couple specialty programs for tuning.
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It definitely feels like it was written for tablets and touch PC's... I still have the beta version though since I needed an OS and it was free. If they ever kill it then I'm screwed!

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I just ordered an I-Pad and hope that it will fulfill my interweb and e-mail needs. That seems to be the only thing I use a computer for anymore.
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I'm struggling though Win8 too. I'm trying not to form an opinion too early, and get to understand it first. But it's buggy for sure, it won't even install it's own updates for me right now.

I understand that MS wants a unified interface for phone, tablet, laptop and desktop. But they are different form factors. What works on the phone is a PIA on my laptop. Things are hidden.

I think they butchered the laptop experience in hopes of selling Windows phones. Good luck with that, seems like Android and those lower-case-i folks have that covered.
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I don't care for this trend (I guess it's official now) of turning the personal computer into just one of a family of "devices." Steve Jobs was the first to publicly announce this. I want everything to be compatible with each other, but I don't need to have my Mac UI to look like an iPad UI. After all, the grid layout was intended to efficiently use the limited screen real estate of a hand-held, which is not an issue with most PCs. I've always had Apple (dual boot if I need Windows), but I'm starting to get irritated with their parent-child approach to customers.

Every commercial seems to show happy happy people dragging family photos onto a video chat window, so that a tearful pair of proud grandparents can ogle over their new grandkid. The emphasis on media consumption, purchasing things with your "device," cloud storage and the worst of all - "social networking" integration are all things that I don't give a sh!t about. I just want to write, use photoshop, edit audio and video, use spreadsheets and G.I.S. apps. I've never once used iPhoto.

Another thing that bothers me is proprietary file formats and being locked out of system files. Apple used to be way more user-customizable than it is now.


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