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post #21 of 49 (permalink) Old 12-04-2012, 06:08 AM
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Huh? What's that? Can't hear ya.

Even their bicycle is too loud. Sorry if you own one, but I don't care too much for walrus & co. built anything. Just an opinion based on nothing more than a reality show about dysfunction.

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...I could be wrong....
You're not.
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These threads always seem to start out bad and get worse.
I suggest toning down the HD bashing before the thread gets censored or locked. Just some friendly advice.
So what you're saying is we should complain about all bikes we've had and didn't like as long as it's not a Harley? Never owned one so I have nothing to say about them.
I've only owned 6 bikes in my short riding life so far, can't say I disliked any of them.
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post #24 of 49 (permalink) Old 12-04-2012, 09:12 AM
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Where's HAP when we need him to rag on two strokes?
I wasn't going to comment but couldn't help myself.

Having owned and ridden lots of bikes in the last 55+ years I can attest to having bought and ridden stinkers.

No one bike brand stands out nor any single model but I have found for every rotten, break down prone model I have ridden, some one else thinks the bike is god's gift to the motorcycle world.

There are bikes that are so old tech wise they are older than me but no matter the cost the bikes sell and some folks swear they are the best. I can't fault some one for paying two times what any other well built bike would cost as we all have succumbed to that some how or other. Like "scooter rebuild," "bobber build", "one of a kind", "OCC ego only purchase" and my favorite one "I want a Motus because no one else will have one or I want a Norton for the same reason" Yep, no one will ever have one allright.

All those old classics in baskets under the bed with monsters, odd Italian opposed V-Twins, the creg's list wonders, death in the family sale of dad's 1987 BMW, cool Harley gotta haves.

Yea, we all all have bought some stinkers but hey, they are motorcycles and we are motorcycle riders.

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Not a bash; just an honest personal assessment.

I owned a 2005 Harley Soft-Tail Deuce for several months; I bought it off a buddy who was in a financial bind. Oddly enough, I was considering a Rocket III at the time. I thought that the Harley would give me a taste of how a heavier bike would handle. If it suited me; I could always trade up later. Ownership could be best described as lukewarm.


1. Getting on and moving off feels like launching a supertanker; you
do get used to it though.

2. It's a bike that drives like a car; due to it's neutral handling
and 'wooden' brakes. This was my biggest 'turn-off' that later
influenced me to trade it in on a new truck.

3. Every component on the bike, down to the last fastener is
robust; as if it were built by Chicago Bridge and Iron.


1. In the time my buddy and I owned the bike, other than
semi-regular maintenance; it never needed repairs of any kind.
Until I got it, it was stored on a front porch with a plastic tarp
thrown over it. Whatever negative issues folks may have with
the brand; I found the build quality to be on par with anything
else on the market.

2. The engine pulls like a freight train. There's no need to 'row the
gearbox'. You can be one or two gears off; just roll on more
throttle. Contrary to popular belief, the engine is not weak, it
just has a lower power-band. If you flog it, it gets up to 110 MPH
as quickly as my Thruxton; while dragging an extra 200 lbs or so.

3. The demand keeps the resale value high; not as high as before,
but still not too shabby. Auto dealers are so desperate to sell
cars that I found one that took it on trade-in for the same price
that I paid for it.

4. Riding one at parking lot speeds forces you to exploit/work the
friction zone on the clutch. It's the most effective control on the
bike. With practice they will turn tight; but you have to do your

In short, Harleys aren't for everyone. They don't do much for me; but owning one wasn't a nightmare. It's more a matter of tastes in configuration and style; heavier bikes just don't cut it for the type of riding I like. There are folks who put a lot of miles on them; they're not all garage queens ridden by pretenders from bar to bar. .........................James.
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post #27 of 49 (permalink) Old 12-04-2012, 10:22 AM
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I am currently riding a Harley until I get a Triumph, and I have to say that I'm not impressed. The Harley is my first road bike coming from motocross and at first I loved it, but I was comparing it to my car. Now that I have ridden a few different bikes and have studied the new technologies that are available I think that Harleys are a horrible value. The brakes suck, the handling sucks, its slow, and Harley parts are very expensive. It is comfortable crusing on the highway, but its too relaxed for my style of riding.

BUT I still ride it everyday because I would rather be on two wheels than four!

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Originally Posted by jp99tbirdnm View Post
I'm a Triumph owner/rider thru and thru. I've had a Triumph since the 70's. I love the make. BUT this Harley bashing isn't about the bikes but some of the owners. I've had my Sporty since 2005 and never one minutes trouble with it. C'mon guys get over the bashing.
It sounds cliche but I have friends that ride Harleys. Sure, there are Harley riders that are jerks. However, I've seen plenty of jerks on Sport bikes too. My bashing has more to do with the value of the bike. Way over priced. I've ridden a few Harleys and wasn't impressed. If they were in line with the price of other bikes, I don't think I would include Harley. Well, at least not the current lot.

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As a teenager with no money I got what was cheap. One of the cheap things I got was a 70's Bultaco. When it worked it was really fun, but it was made out of unobtainium which looked like metal but wouldn't bend, it just broke like a ceramic bowl, and couldn't be welded with any technology of the 70's. To top it all off, replacement parts were hand-carried from Spain on sailing ships!

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That we all ride a bike is THE most important thing. It's just that in my experience I had some that didn't exactly light up my nose hairs as well as others did and, God help me, there's bikes out there I still want to sample and can't afford.
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