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Old 12-02-2012, 02:31 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I thought I was the only one who was a nurse. Been an LPN for 19.5 years and about to start my RN degree courtesy of Uncle Sam. I work for the VA and they will pay me to stay home and go to school for a 3 year commitment to work for them when I'm done. Planning to work for them anyway so I'm going for it. Like Lee said, being a white male is definately a minority. I like working on my locked psych ward though.
Yep it is. I sure do get tired of the "You're a male and therefore you cannot be assertive, only aggressive and violent." Ever get that? I tend to call a lot of people on their BS. You know what I mean too fellow nurses.



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I like nursing but some days I miss the old factory floor mentality of telling peopel to go F themselves and then Loc-Tite'ing their tool box closed.
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The downsides are being considered 'fair game' by sections of the community because of the uniform and working with a heavily 'risk averse' management (read - bosses that would rather throw you to the wolves than support you!!).
Jolly as a Director I modelled my style of management and how i protect my staff after the best boss I ever had. I see this too often where staff is thrown under the bus or is treated as expendable. I truly believe if I am there for them they will reciprocate. I have been going to Administration over the years to correct poor behavior from above and on my last job it was my boss being treated poorly. I left that job because of that and accepted the position I am currently at. This is very important to me that my staff and peers are treated with respect and that they are supported.
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Yep it is. I sure do get tired of the "You're a male and therefore you cannot be assertive, only aggressive and violent." Ever get that? I tend to call a lot of people on their BS. You know what I mean too fellow nurses.

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It took me a long time not to react in an anger mode and over the years I have removed that from my management style. I work on fixing processes not pointing fingers and I also tried to be fair. I find it funny though that some still expect me to digress back to the former ....like you said male nurse anger is expected sometimes.
I find also if a surgeon is out of control ....a low tone of voice unemotional ..... if you don't knock it off we can step out side comment....works wonders ... only for those wankers that will not treat my staff appropriately.
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Jolly as a Director I modelled my style of management and how i protect my staff after the best boss I ever had. I see this too often where staff is thrown under the bus or is treated as expendable. I truly believe if I am there for them they will reciprocate. I have been going to Administration over the years to correct poor behavior from above and on my last job it was my boss being treated poorly. I left that job because of that and accepted the position I am currently at. This is very important to me that my staff and peers are treated with respect and that they are supported.
I hear you Lee........my view exactly. I'm a Sergeant so I'm sort of middle management......not commissioned and not exactly 'one of the troops'....I try to fight above and shield below (when necessary and possible)
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It took me a long time not to react in an anger mode and over the years I have removed that from my management style. I work on fixing processes not pointing fingers and I also tried to be fair. I find it funny though that some still expect me to digress back to the former ....like you said male nurse anger is expected sometimes.
I find also if a surgeon is out of control ....a low tone of voice unemotional ..... if you don't knock it off we can step out side comment....works wonders ... only for those wankers that will not treat my staff appropriately.
That's where your finesse comes from

Sounds like you've enjoyed and excelled at your career Lee!

I've had a whacked out career! It's been a career in the sense of careering down a street on roller skates!

Law school, Franciscan Friar, prison Chaplain, teacher, school administrator, insurance and investment adviser, some construction thrown in, and now who knows where.
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That's where your finesse comes from

Sounds like you've enjoyed and excelled at your career Lee!

I've had a whacked out career! It's been a career in the sense of careering down a street on roller skates!

Law school, Franciscan Friar, prison Chaplain, teacher, school administrator, insurance and investment adviser, some construction thrown in, and now who knows where.
That is even more diverse than me....but it adds to your skill set. After this year I will be trying to knock out a lot more of Canada so be ready to go for a ride in 2014...
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I was in banking operations for years and years. Had some good jobs but the politics of it got me in the end, plus I just couldn't keep my trap shut when it came to my boss using drugs. Tried and failed miserably to start a local advertising business. Got so buried in debt I had to do something quick so I went to truck driving school and..... surprise!!... it was taylor made for a guy like me. No boss in my face, just pick up and deliver loads all over the country. I was able to get out of debt in a relatively short time of three years. Was able to save for a rainy day the next seven which was good when my health got bad. So now I'm "retired" but I'm able to live debt free, including the house which I inherited and was able to pay off.

But I do have to say I went from pillar to post so to speak as far as jobs. Just kinda took what came along and stayed with it till it dried up or I got wanderlust. I can tell you for sure banking is not one of those jobs that are in demand like nursing or trucking.
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It took me a long time not to react in an anger mode and over the years I have removed that from my management style. I work on fixing processes not pointing fingers and I also tried to be fair. I find it funny though that some still expect me to digress back to the former ....like you said male nurse anger is expected sometimes.
I find also if a surgeon is out of control ....a low tone of voice unemotional ..... if you don't knock it off we can step out side comment....works wonders ... only for those wankers that will not treat my staff appropriately.
We've got an old bag who work pharmacy for us and she is always trying to pick a fight. We didn't include one piece of paper with a return of phenobarbital last week (it was a freaking zoo that day AND we don't keep individual narc counts, they are all on one register) and she proceeded to berate my colleague over the phone! Finally my colleague said to her "Maybe you can explain to me why we didn't get X's complete order of medication. They've only been here 6 days." She's my new hero.

I find if I really want to put some over bloated "professional" in their place I just tell them, in a low calm, matter of fact voice "When you can calm down and act in a civilized manner I will be happy to discuss this matter with you."
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I find if I really want to put some over bloated "professional" in their place I just tell them, in a low calm, matter of fact voice "When you can calm down and act in a civilized manner I will be happy to discuss this matter with you."
I should use that line when modding
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I should use that line when modding
It's good eh? Sends people into a real rage.
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