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Old 12-02-2012, 03:01 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I'm lucky, I live next to an Indian reservation, they have 93 non ethanol for about the same price as regular off res. My Rocket likes the high octane, rest of my bikes it makes no difference, but at least it's ethanol free.
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Old 12-02-2012, 03:29 PM   #43 (permalink)
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As a matter interest, the only leaded gasoline sold in the US today is 100 Low-Lead aviation fuel
Um....not true. I used 110 race fuel in my SCCA A/Sedan car. Can buy it at the pump, or they sale by the drum.
TurboBlue, Sunoco Purple, etc. Twice as expensive, but still out there. Can be used 1:1 with unleaded, since very few engines need that much octane.
My local source. http://bentonoilservice.com/

I agree, rotten politics is letting us use food product for fuel. There are people that have fermented kudzu in the south. Hell, we could double the ethanol production for the world with that stuff. ;^)

You're right, I completely forgot about specialized racing fuels that are available to the public. But still, this stuff isn't generally used for daily transportation; even Avgas is is used more for transportation purposes than by the recreatonal pilot. Both are high dollar commodities compared to the swill at the auto pumps; not as much demand. .............James.
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You're right, I completely forgot about specialized racing fuels that are available to the public. But still, this stuff isn't generally used for daily transportation; even Avgas is is used more for transportation purposes than by the recreatonal pilot. Both are high dollar commodities compared to the swill at the auto pumps; not as much demand. .............James.
I'd rather pay for the quality that the junk at the Sheeple Pump.
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Old 12-02-2012, 05:13 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Of course you don't for sure, but I have a friend that works there. More tellingly, they were without it for a couple months while the refinery shut down for maintenance. Comes out of Canada. There are a few other stations around that have 89 non ethanol, but pricey.

How do you know your Bourbon is really 80 proof?
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Of course you don't for sure, but I have a friend that works there. More tellingly, they were without it for a couple months while the refinery shut down for maintenance. Comes out of Canada. There are a few other stations around that have 89 non ethanol, but pricey.

How do you know your Bourbon is really 80 proof?
Good tip on the Indian Reservations. There are several in my area that I might check out. Puregas.com does not show all of the stations in California with out Ethanol. I think it will be a very long time before the small aviation industry is forced to change over their fuels and as one guy pointed out there is the racing fuel availability too.
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I can't speak for the U.S., but in Canada Shell's top tier grade (tagged as Ultra I believe) is the only consumer station to provide Ethanol free gasoline. All their other grades (and other stations contain up to 10% Ethanol.
Ethanol's naturally corrosive nature and ability to absorb moisture make it damaging to ANY fuel system that sits for an extended length of time. Powersports in particular...
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Ethanol's naturally corrosive nature and ability to absorb moisture make it damaging to ANY fuel system that sits for an extended length of time. Powersports in particular...
This is exactly what I have been reading too.
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This product is designed to combat Ethanol damage in gasoline (and diesel) engines. I've been using it in my boat for a few years.

http://mystarbrite.com/startron/
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AvGas is too high in octane unless you have seriously modded engine, and has a shotgun shell's worth of lead in it. OK, not that much, but it's quite a bit.
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