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D41

I'm willing...I don't live in Trashville.

Thruxton-Texas

I find your rebuttal neither constructive nor mature, considering some of the unwarranted personal attacks that you've resorted to in your last two replies to my posts. Some of the other members have disagreed with the ideas put forth in that same post without all the negativity.

This thread is about a very questionable (to put it mildly) use of deadly force. It is not about gun control, or the Second Amendment; so you'll have to look elsewhere for a "bedtime story" or an axe to grind. The decision not to own a gun is yours alone; just like not wearing a helmet when you ride. Just don't whine or blame others for your lack of foresight if wishful thinking fails. ........James.

D41

Quite, and referring to people who choose not to defend their homes with a firearm as a form of Darwinism is not offensive either, is it??

Hey, if you feel 'safe' with a gun in your neck-of-the-woods then good for you...I don't, and I resent being told I should by someone who has no understanding whatsoever of my personal circumstances.

radan2

It isn't the first shot in each case that is the problem, it is the second shot. Once they were lying on the ground bleeding, what need was there to shoot them again? If they had weapons, they would have already drawn and attempted to use them.

In essence, this man killed two helpless, wounded people. Even in wartime, killing a non-resisting wounded enemy is considered wrong.

Had he shot them once, then called 911 to report that he had wounded two would-be burglars, he would be a hero. As it is, he is, in my opinion, scum.

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spank86

Gun control in germany predates the Nazi control of germany and was enacted in part to try to deal with the nazis.

With regards to the holocaust the jews hardly have a history of armed resistance so it's unlikely it would have changed a great deal even if they had freer access to weapons.

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Demonic

I'm not saying you're wrong, just that it has no bearing whatsoever on the this topic. A couple of burglars are not the same as The Nazis.

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Irishguy

While I am a firm believer in my 2nd amendment rights and I always reserve the right to defend myself, my family and my property, The guy seems from the article to have been excessive in his use of force. Of course we may never know the true intent of the teenagers. Historically teenagers have commited some heinous crimes.

In closing, I will say this... Anyone who breaks in my house better be prepared to die, I say that unapologetically.

Silverado57

I think the point is that "the government" established laws restricting firearms ownership and use. The end result is the same whether it was the Nazis or the Weimar government. In fact, both established strict firearms laws. Those laws left citizens helpless to defend themselves against the government or otherwise.

The Nazis took it to another level by specifically targeting Jews. "On November 11, 1938, the Minister of the Interior, Wilhelm Frick, passed Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons. This regulation effectively deprived all Jews of the right to possess firearms or other weapons."

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Silverado57

That may or may not be, but unless you're Steve McQueen, most mug shots are not necessarily suitable for framing.

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Tripps

I read the linked article, besides the cut and pasted post. I'm amazed no one commented on...

"Bruce Smith told the Star Tribune on Sunday that the break-ins had left his brother, a former State Department security officer, feeling vulnerable and afraid."

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