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Irishguy

Hap this is huge news!

You learned how to post a link!

D41

I dunno, dude...The Battle Of Britain was pretty significant in numerous ways. After Dunkirk there was literally nothing holding the Germans back from invading the UK except a dithering Hitler who preferred British capitulation rather than invasion. Radar saved the Brits, and the BoB was unusual in that it was something the general public could actually watch unfolding in the skies above them.
Hitler's switch to bombing British cities came at a crucial time, and when it was all over it forced the Germans to keep hundreds of Luftwaffe planes in Western Europe that were sorely needed in Russia.....I doubt Hitler ever realised just how close he came to gaining his overall objectives.

Irishguy

Define "unqualified" as it applies to my post.

This summary is the way that I understand the laws that apply in my state...

"Sixteen states have adopted "Stand Your Ground" laws that allow an individual to use deadly force to protect a residence, place of business, vehicle or other property, so far Alabama, Georgia, Indiana, Louisiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, Tennessee, South Carolina, South Dakota, Virginia and Washington have enacted statutes.

The law states that an individual in self-defense "has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force,it also forbids the arrest, detention or prosecution of the shooters covered by the law, and it prohibits civil suits against them.

There are requirements that vary from state to state before deadly force can be used a few examples are:An intruder must be making or have made an attempt to unlawfully and/or forcibly enter an occupied home, business or car.
The occupant of the home must reasonably believe that the intruder intends to inflict bodily harm or death upon an occupant of the home.

The occupant of the home must reasonably believe that the intruder intends to commit some other felony, such as arson or burglary. The occupant of the home must not have provoked or instigated an intrusion, or provoked or instigated an intruder to threaten or use deadly force."

The "Stand your Ground" law takes the "Castle Law" one step further, so no... If someone broke into our house, my first thoughts would be protecting my family and any thoughts of future prosecution or civil action would be the furthest from my mind.

None of that is to say that I am some gun toting nut job looking for some kind of gun fight. those on the forum that know me personally would attest to the fact that that is simply not the case. I am trained in other forms of self-defense also, and I feel strongly that my wife and my family depends on me as their primary defender. I take that responsibility seriously. It's as simple as that.

saphena

Even so, disabling the intruder by shooting him the first time was self defence; following up with a head shot is murder.

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saphena

The invasion plan called for the Luftwaffe to destroy the RAF in order to gain unrestricted air superiority as the first step. Radar gave the RAF an enormous advantage but what really decided the outcome was that the Luftwaffe switched to bombing cities rather than continuing to eliminate RAF stations.

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Demonic

It's a usual piece of Internet scare-mongering. There WAS a "U.N. Small Arms Treaty", which the US didn't sign up to, and which was only really concerned with the international illegal arms trade, anyway.

Here's a link to Snopes. It's pretty old.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/untreaty.asp

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HAP

The word smithing begins. The article (by the way, if you don't like that source there are maybe a hundred more) said craft, not write laws. Your own quote says it best. Your parliament writes or creates a parralel law to the crafted one by the Belgian masters.

I am in shock you would admit I might be correct in some things. Thanks.

HAP

Irish, that is so yesterday's news. Dog got me into doing it just to torment Boldor and I got hooked.

I have learned that not every source linked is believed by some folks. Even when it is a government link nay sayers jump out of the wood work. But it is fun.

Irishguy

Thank goodness that they did not invade Switzerland, because Steve McQueen would not have had a country to escape to by trying to jump the fence. This would have potentially hurt the future sales of limited edition Triumph Bonnevilles.

BrewDudeBob

Here's the clip

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