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I think the point is that "the government" established laws restricting firearms ownership and use. The end result is the same whether it was the Nazis or the Weimar government. In fact, both established strict firearms laws. Those laws left citizens helpless to defend themselves against the government or otherwise.
The Nazis took it to another level by specifically targeting Jews. "On November 11, 1938, the Minister of the Interior, Wilhelm Frick, passed Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons. This regulation effectively deprived all Jews of the right to possess firearms or other weapons."
While I am a firm believer in my 2nd amendment rights and I always reserve the right to defend myself, my family and my property, The guy seems from the article to have been excessive in his use of force. Of course we may never know the true intent of the teenagers. Historically teenagers have commited some heinous crimes.
In closing, I will say this... Anyone who breaks in my house better be prepared to die, I say that unapologetically.
Everything I've read about Germany anti-semitic hysteria before and during the was suggests the Jews would not have been much better off if the whole population had had guns. Now, if ONLY the Jews had guns, that might have been different. But they were still a minority, and the anti-semitic sentiments in the population would not have been lessened just because they were armed...
And I hope you're prepared for the consequences. The castle doctrine doesn't give you an unqualified right to take the life of someone who has broken into your home.
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I think these teens picked the wrong house to break into but that doesn't give him the right to do what he did.
A Minnesota man was charged Monday with second-degree murder in the Thanksgiving Day shooting deaths of two teenage cousins he said had broken into his home.
Byron David Smith, 64, of Little Falls, told investigators he shot 17-year-old Nicholas Brady Schaeffel and 18-year-old Haile Kifer as they came downstairs into his basement workshop.
A criminal complaint says Smith told investigators he shot Schaeffel when the teen had partially descended the stairs, then fired again into the teen's face as he lay on the floor looking at him.
"I want him dead," the complaint quoted Smith telling an investigator.
He then described sitting down again in his chair, and in a few minutes, the second teen — Kifer — began walking down the steps. Smith said he shot her and she also fell down the stairs. He said he tried to shoot her again, and when his Mini 14 rifle jammed, she laughed at him.
Smith told investigators that made him mad: "If you're trying to shoot somebody and they laugh at you, you go again," he said, according to the complaint.
Smith said he then pulled out a .22-caliber revolver he was wearing and shot Kifer several times in the chest. He fired a final shot under her chin because she was still gasping for air a few minutes later, he said.
Smith called a neighbor the following day, Friday, to ask if the neighbor knew any good lawyers, according to the complaint. He later asked his neighbor to call the police.
Minnesota law allows a homeowner to use deadly force on an intruder if a reasonable person would fear they're in danger of harm. Smith told investigators he was afraid the intruders might have a weapon.
We're getting off on a tangent now, but you might think twice about trying to erase a segment of the population if you know they have a way to protect themselves. Even if you're armed, you're not likely to go looking for a fight with someone else who is armed.
See Robert Heinlein: "An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life".
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