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Old 11-13-2012, 07:00 PM   #21 (permalink)
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You don't get a DUI and charged with criminal homicide by having a beer at lunch. This is this guy's second felony DUI. He looks to be a bad actor and would be an arsehole in my book regardless of what he was riding or who he was. Driving and drinking is a concious choice and I have NO sympathy for this guy and only hope that he gets whatever it takes to bring justice to the family of the victims and for him to get dry. At his age, his balls probably aren't much use anymore, anyway. What????? I'm just saying.

Edit: I fixed my previous accusation about a previous fatality. That fact hasn't been established.
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:34 PM   #22 (permalink)
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For the comment saying "how do we know that he was bar hoping?" Are you for real????!
Just how many times have you seen any other make of bike parked outside of bars?
Especially if the bar is less than a few miles from the true "biker's" home?
Those bikes can go a hundred years before they log 10,000 miles on them.

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Old 11-16-2012, 12:00 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Why does it seem the drunk drivers/riders tend to survive this kind of **** while others are killed or severely maimed due to their actions?
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:36 AM   #24 (permalink)
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That's a good question Moogs, if the phenomena is real. Anyone got any stats?


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PopPop, it has been proven time and time again that the inebriated person is so limber/relaxed/drunk that they tend to not brace for impact.

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For the comment saying "how do we know that he was bar hoping?" Are you for real????!
Just how many times have you seen any other make of bike parked outside of bars?
Especially if the bar is less than a few miles from the true "biker's" home?
Those bikes can go a hundred years before they log 10,000 miles on them.

Just sayin'

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I'm simply trying to steer clear of supposition and stereotype. Many people are assuming facts not provided by the article. Was he bar hopping? Maybe, but we have been shown nothing that says that is the case.

I have no sympathy for a drunk driver. But I don't feel the need to jump to conclusions either. I'm sure each of use has been the victim of undeserved stereotyping at some point, so why propagate that particular crime?
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:59 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Why does it seem the drunk drivers/riders tend to survive this kind of **** while others are killed or severely maimed due to their actions?
This ones easy, physics. E=MC2
Nothing to do with being limp, everything to do with energy and how it gets transferred.
Bike beats human, car beats bike, truck beats car, train beats truck.
It's not the fall that kills you it's the sudden stop at the end, dissipate the energy and increase your chance of survival. Exactly what a crumple zone in autos is designed to do. You don't want to be the one absorbing the energy, bad bad.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:20 AM   #28 (permalink)
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From the video, it appears that the bike path crossed the road, and when the rider got to the crossing he went down the bike path instead of the road, and then struck the people.
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Old 11-16-2012, 05:14 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I just went pass the crash scene, it's about a mile from where I work. I don't even know how to comment on some of these posts, bar hopping, sterio types? Be serious, he's had a history of drunk driving, he did it again and two innocent women are dead. That's it.

I don't understand the mentality of some individuals. It seems in Westen New York and I assume it happens in other parts of the world that the first few nice days in the spring and the last few good days in the fall, bars are filled with bikes. And yes, most are American made.

When was the last time you drove by a corner bar and saw a bunch of Ducati's.

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Old 11-16-2012, 06:24 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I feel certain that if this tragedy had happened here in the UK, it would be headline news. The authorities have, quite rightly, relegated drink driving to a status somewhere between child molesting and necrophilia. It seems that a similar approach by the US authorities is in order. "Rows of bikes parked outside bars?" What's that all about? Are these guys retarded? What are your traffic cops doing about it? I lost a very dear friend to a drunk driver back in the 70's, when it was commonplace to drink and drive. I still think about her every day. I still get mad. This "biker" needs to see a shrink while he's in gaol, as he obviously has a problem.
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