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Old 11-13-2012, 11:26 AM   #11 (permalink)
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How many times have I heard "You go where you're looking". Good lesson on not girl-watching while riding.

Still waiting for the breathalyser vehicle ignition system.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:41 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:04 PM   #13 (permalink)
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We had a guy out here not too long ago who borrowed his neighbor's bike, and took his wife out drinking. No helments, but no motorcycle endorsement either. He couldn't remember exactly how many mixed vodka drinks he'd had, but he blew at 3.0. Anyways, he wrecked and killed his wife. He wasn't sure what happened, he though he had hit a patch of sand. Of course, the sober among us plan for and deal with such things without killing anyone.

He got 18 months in jail and a bunch of parole time.

I was going to post a link to a news article about this, but on re-reading the articles I realized there are a few details of the story I had wrong. But, instead of changing my story I'm going to just not post the link, no use in letting a few facts ruin the impact of my yarn.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:44 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I'm probably going to get some flack for this but here we go anyway.

First, I didn't see anything saying the guy was 'bar hopping'. The rider was charged with DUI, so it's safe to say he was drunk. But we don't have any further details. Was he bar hopping or just had a beer with a late lunch? Was he barely at the limit or was he 3 sheets to the wind? The story doesn't say.

Next, the rider crossed into the bike path and killed two people. As mentioned by some of the others here, this isn't anything new. The only thing that makes it 'sensational' is that it was a motorcycle that did the deed.

So I'm not saying the guy shouldn't get the book thrown at him, only that we don't really know much about the situation based on that one article. And I'm not saying we should defend the guy as it sounds like he was 100% in the wrong, but look how much we - as fellow riders - are willing to jump on this guy and scream for his head. Now ask yourselves what the average non-rider's reaction must be like. If we assume the worst, what are they thinking?

So let's not condone the guy's actions; but let's not jump to any unnecessary conclusions either. There will be enough people calling for banning all motorcycles without us fanning the flames.

As an aside, would we (or the public at large) be up in arms if it were a bicyclist that killed two people? We've had 2 pedestrians killed by pedal powered riders here in SF this year, but I haven't heard a lot of outrage.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:52 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Personally, I think drinking and riding is pretty dumb. I should, but I don't hold exactly that standard to the car. But the bike requires so much more concentration and judgement, that I think drinking absolutely nothing while riding is the reasonable approach.

So when a guy is riding drunk, and hurts himself or someone else, I feel pretty free to condone the dude.

Hanging him by neck or balls is an over-reach, but I think it's pretty healthy to ridicule such folks.
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:05 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Some ****ing drunk here about 2 weeks ago got DUI and blew a 0.63. The man must have been a walking pickle.
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Some ****ing drunk here about 2 weeks ago got DUI and blew a 0.63. The man must have been a walking pickle.
RESPECT!!!

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Old 11-13-2012, 05:36 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Now, I understand that on a very cold and stormy morning, the type where the lightening sets off the car alarms and keeps the weaker of men inside, a bracing shot of Jameson's may be in order just to set the tone for the day. I mean, no need to be obsessive on these rules.
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Now, I understand that on a very cold and stormy morning, the type where the lightening sets off the car alarms and keeps the weaker of men inside, a bracing shot of Jameson's may be in order just to set the tone for the day. I mean, no need to be obsessive on these rules.
I think I can speak for UncleNort here as well as myself, we heartily endorse this sentiment.

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TIE and Pam stayed back, TIE was a bit ill. lxmary and he-who-obeys were caging it due to one of Mary's wrecks, hard to keep track of them now. Oh yeah, the one from the previous day. That left Jeremy (JWisc) and Nort and you and me. That was a good day, the weather kept the light-weights at home leaving a pretty quality crowd at the Crud Run.
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