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Old 11-13-2012, 08:37 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Hey HAP, I'm not getting one! "Triumph forever"!
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:29 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Here's how I see the CB1100 playing out:

A lot of Americans say "that looks nice. Honda should bring it here.".

Honda looks around and says "you know, maybe we should bring it to the U.S.", which they then do.

The bike languishes on dealer lots until they are given away. Honda ends importation after two years of dismal sales.

Three years after pulling the bike from the market, everyone goes mad for it and wonders why Honda stopped selling them here.
You are, sadly, probably right Lefty. I guess the question is how did Triumph make the retro Bonnie so successful. Timing? Luck? Is Honda missing the boat by bringing this out too late?

I would just like to see more of these types of bikes out in the market. I don't really know why, I'm perfectly happy with my Bonnie and wouldn't trade it in for the CB1100. But I'd still like to see Honda sell a lot of these bikes....
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:44 PM   #63 (permalink)
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I was thinking about bikes like the Kaw W650, the Harley XR1200 or the Ducati Sportclassics; bikes that generated interest that didn't trun into sales. It will be interesting to see if the CB1100's interest turns into sales.

Now that the W650 and the Sportclassics have been out of production for awhile, they're hard to find on the used market and the ones you can find aren't cheap. I talked to my local Ducati dealer about the Sportclassics and he said he couldn't give them away new and now he gets calls from people wanting one.

I think what made the Bonneville be so successful is a combo of relatively low price, good looks and strong modification potential.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:01 PM   #64 (permalink)
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I think what made the Bonneville be so successful is a combo of relatively low price, good looks and strong modification potential.

Triumph modern classics also are affiliated/associated with Triumph's legendary Hollywood "cool factor" from the past. No other motorcycle manufacturer comes close. Hinckley was smart enough not to ignore that and translate it into sales.

That Honda is still ugly.
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:47 AM   #65 (permalink)
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That Honda is still ugly.

Or maybe different people just have different ideals, and not everyone will agree on what ugly is.

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Old 11-14-2012, 01:13 AM   #66 (permalink)
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Shrink it to 3/4 size,make it a 750.
The cb500f,has better looking wheels
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Old 11-14-2012, 02:11 AM   #67 (permalink)
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Or maybe different people just have different ideals, and not everyone will agree on what ugly is.

You're absolutely correct, Phil. I'm not a Honda guy so I really shouldn't be putting down bikes that don't appeal to me in the first place, but I do think the bike was rushed in the retro/attractive design dept. I would have went closer to the original. I think doxiedog's comment about going smaller is right. Also, throw some gaiters on it and give it spokes. If you're going retro, then go retro.

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If Honda went for a modern version of the original CB 750 and CB550 they couldn't keep them on the show rooms.
Personally I liked the 919 but it was let down by a motor so detuned it never caught on.
Seems so obvious to me why they haven't hit home runs over the years with new models.
Triumph on the other hand has been better at listening and designing what it's buyers want and had the sales to prove it.
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You're absolutely correct, Phil. I'm not a Honda guy so I really shouldn't be putting down bikes that don't appeal to me in the first place, but I do think the bike was rushed in the retro/attractive design dept. I would have went closer to the original. I think doxiedog's comment about going smaller is right. Also, throw some gaiters on it and give it spokes. If you're going retro, then go retro.
I pretty much grew up riding Hondas from the mid 70's to early 80's, so yea... I really dig old Hondas. To my eye the new CB looks more like early 80's retro, rather than 60's or 70's. If they were styling it after the original CB750 with fork gaiters and spoked wheels, they would have gave it analog gauges, crappy brakes, and terrible suspension too.
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