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I feel better now...A guy who rides as much as you, Canada isn't far enough to hide if he's peed off at ya.

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DaveM

Well Dog honestly probably not, but it made me feel terribly important to say that

On a more serious note I still think the whining murderer is only worth 2 .22 shells in the back of the head.

Mind you Lee's idea of burly for a white pointer fishing expedition does have merit.

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LEE

LMAO.... I am a very easy going guy...except when I don't sleep, ride my bike or I am in a lot of pain....oh wait that is now... After two more continental states and Alaska I have to finish up riding through Canada....Then maybe Europe....

LEE

Did I mention Pay per View.......

It would not work in Australia though the sharks are too damm big and it would be a quick encounter.....

DaveM

Sad but true Lee

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Boldor

To all you Old Testament types, an eye for an eye an' all that schit;

Why do you want this weirdo to suffer?

To anyone who wants him to suffer, what does it achieve for you?

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DaveM

Bo I would be quite happy as I posted several pages ago for him not to suffer and for us not to put up with him.

2 x .22 back of head and it's all over, I have no personal experience of whether he would suffer or not but my guess is not.

I would imagine that if the family members of those whom he murdered had any say, probably quite a lot would prefer the death penalty for his crimes.

I have no interest in "an eye for an eye".

The man is a murderer of 77 people to me that does not deserve a life time in a prison being a burden on society, possibly writing a book about it etc etc.

that is my

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LEE

Can we elaborate on suffer? No home box...no twinkies (cream filled pastries with a 100 year shelf life) ..... Or are we talking a ball pean hammer to the metatarsals.....I mean we need to clarify.. but for a man who killed 77 people I don't think anyone will be turning the other cheek...nor will anyone be overly concerned..perhaps he will find budha, jesus, mohammed or what ever in prison...they always seem to gravitate that way when it helps them...

welshrob

Ultimately, Anders Brevik committed the crime in Norway, so it is (luckily for him) not up to us, how he gets punished. It is my understanding that he will serve an absolute maximum of 21 years, he may even possibly serve less. He will be my age when he gets out and will most likely have more than half his life in front of him. He will have no money worries thanks to his cult celebrity status and the books that he is busy writing.

I think he will go down in history as the world`s most lightly punished mass murderer and it is Ironic that Norway`s extremely liberal system which he hates so much, will benefit him so greatly.

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zelatore

Lee, you might find it interesting to note that California, the flagship state of the liberals, just voted to keep it's death penalty.

Now personally, I voted to get rid of it. But not on any moral grounds, more as a practical matter. Of the 400-odd convicts we have on death row, almost none of them will ever actually get the needle. I think we've only actually executed a handful since reinstating the penalty around '79 or so (?). Most end up dieing of natural causes in prison anyway, and it is estimated we would save over $100,000,000 a year if we simply changed them all to life without parole.

Further, I really question whether anybody considering committing first degree murder thinks 'well, I would but for the death penalty...'. I doubt very much they give the consequences of their actions much thought at all.

And yes, there is the odd case where a man is found guilty only to be exonerated many years later and set free. Rare, certainly, but not unheard of.

Further, I would think a life of solitary confinement with nope hope of parole may well be worse than death. Certainly it would be for some.

The only real plus I can see would be in a DA using the threat of the death penalty to extract confession or plea bargain though again I don't know how often that sort of thing really takes place.

So while I don't have a moral objection to the death penalty, I'm not really sure it makes sense when considered purely on a logical level instead of an emotional one where revenge is a strong motive.

All that aside, that the killer in this particular case got such a light sentence is utterly incomprehensible.

As for W and any war crimes......it's best I not go down that path. That way lies banishment!

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