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LEE · 11-10-2012, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PopPop

iBALEE: Child molester? you may have something there. At the very least, his sore bung would take his mind off of the tepid coffee

Life expectancy in a prison yard would be brief...therefore self correcting...lol

You can't appeal prison yard justice....

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Originally Posted by Thruxton-Texas

I share your outrage about Breivik's horrific crimes. I also understand your need to blow off some steam; if it had been up to me, they would have hanged him on the courthouse lawn. Executions are sometimes a necessary evil, but they should be quick and merciful, like flushing the toilet after your poop-de-jure. Anything else is like digging the waste out of the bowl to play with it first.

Yes, under certain circumstances, I'd render the coup-de-gras; but there's not enough Nazi in me to enjoy it. And for all your rhetoric, I don't think there's enough in you either. ..........James.

James you are perhaps right...but I would be able to do the quick dispatch with out issue...and feel no remorse for an animal like this....

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Originally Posted by Silverado57

Heaven forbid, no!

There are already folks employed in the execution business. Me volunteering to eliminate every imprisoned miscreant might put someone else on the already lengthy unemployment line. Then the hangman might also snap, and go on his own killing rampage. Best to leave the killing of condemned criminals to the professionals, or their cell mates.

Twenty years as a RN and EMT...it goes against the first do no harm...(my Plate on my bike) but in this case ...I could be coaxed very easily to step up and assist...(no charge) I would be willing to do volunteer work..

But I still like my ballpean suggestiion..low tech and reusable...of course we would remove any bio hazard....

My father in law a very smart and good man once asked me if I could shoot an intruder that had broken into my house. I responded how many times? It is not something good people want to do...but sometimes it is necessary for your protection and safety. Don't think that this guy can not hurt anyone in jail..he could very well attack a guard...so termination would be a good end for him...jmop. All in favor signify with a YEAH!

Triplets · 11-10-2012, 04:21 PM

Unless religion is a reason for persecution within the state where the immigrant is attempting to escape from (in which case asylum may be offered where proof of persecution is clear), immigration (into Europe) is driven by economic desire. Unless it is illegal immigration. In Australia and Europe the larger proportion of the media seem more concerned with illegal immigration and the "results" of it rather than accepting that immigrants have legitimate reasons for migrating to other countries. That perception skews the debate about immigration.

If we enter the debate about immigration as a reiligious "problem" we enter a debate that usually gets to cultural difference - currently that will be to do with "muslims": Before it was blacks and the Irish. Muslims are the enemy because we are at "war" in their countries for all of our incisive and complicated reasons.

No place in the world has a pure population unsullied by immigrants, unless someone can point out where it is?

There's no telling how many murders have not happened because the death penalty terrifies those reasoned enough to consider it as a consequence of their actions. I do not believe the death penalty to be justified. I do not know how many murders have been prevented by the thought of life long imprisonment.

Breivik didn't want to be judged insane as that would undermine his perceived and self justifying legitimacy for his actions. McVeigh needed the same thing and didn't use it as a defence for murdering dozens of people. Both want(ed) their ideas seen as rational ideas that drove them to their actions.

Breivik deserves to suffer every day for the rest of his life.

Overkill0084 · 11-10-2012, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Thruxton-Texas

This is one of the better stated arguments in favor of the death penalty.

In most of post-war Europe, that boat sailed a long time ago. And as time goes on we're going to see less of it over here; for better or worse. As long as they keep the SOB off the street, justice is still served.
Let me pose a rhetorical question; how many of us who advocate for the death penalty would have the stomach to render the coup-de-gras? Keep in mind that the condemned is bound, helpless, crying, and sometimes soiling/wetting himself; a real horror show. What would this indicate about an individual who volunteered for the duty twice? Food for thought. .................James.

I guess I have very little sympathy for psychopaths.
I would think that one need only give some thought to his victims. 77 dead. Seems to me that the death penalty is perfect for someone of this nature.
Put an Ikea logo on it and he's GTG:

PopPop · 11-10-2012, 04:30 PM

Well, we were amused by the ridiculous whining of a mass murderer. It's something to ignore, I say let him rot. History tells us these types will always be around to ruin our peace. I put this guy in a different class than war criminals in that it was a isolated singular act of hatred. By the way, how ever much i dislike Dubya's business in Iraq, he was never charged or found guilty of war crimes.

Boldor · 11-10-2012, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Silverado57

If this poor chap is suffering so, the humane thing to do it end it for him. Just as you would put a sick dog to sleep.

Anyone capable of killing 77 people is not going to be fixed or understood.

He's not a dog. I am not speaking figuratively, merely factually. He is the same species as you!

Are you suggesting that you personally are incapable of understanding him? Because you have already demonstrated confusion regarding how you might treat a human compared to dog. Or are you saying that, in your learned opinion, no person could ever learn anything from this experience; "Give up before you start; hang the prick high and watch him kick"?

Just out of interest, is your attitude more superior than his because "He started it"?

Silverado57 · 11-10-2012, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Boldor

He's not a dog. I am not speaking figuratively, merely factually. He is the same species as you!

Are you suggesting that you personally are incapable of understanding him? Because you have already demonstrated confusion regarding how you might treat a human compared to dog. Or are you saying that, in your learned opinion, no person could ever learn anything from this experience; "Give up before you start; hang the prick high and watch him kick"?

Just out of interest, is your attitude more superior than his because "He started it"?

He's not a dog. Dogs are man's best friend. This guy killed men.

My attitude is more superior because he killed 77 people, and I did not.

If you want to understand him, get in his cell, pat his head and give him a hug. I want no part of it.

LEE · 11-10-2012, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Silverado57

He's not a dog. Dogs are man's best friend. This guy killed men.

My attitude is more superior because he killed 77 people, and I did not.

If you want to understand him, get in his cell, pat his head and give him a hug. I want no part of it.

This guy was a coward ...murdering POC....perhaps take him sky diving with out a parachute or shark fishing and he would be the bait.. Understand! Understand ! are you freaking kidding...who gives a crap..terminate the bastard...Silverado is right dogs ...hell an ameba is more important than this chunk of crap....

I love the absurd touchy feely understand the mass murder BS comments....

dogtired · 11-10-2012, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Thruxton-Texas

Let me pose a rhetorical question; how many of us who advocate for the death penalty would have the stomach to render the coup-de-gras?

Firstly, why ask a question that doesn't require an answer?
Huh?

I have no doubt in the world I could kill him, no doubt whatsoever, but I do not advocate the death penalty, so I suppose the question is irrelevant to me.

Being able to do the deed, but not doing it on principals sake is my zen.

I must say a lot of the baying for blood in some of the posts is comical.
Change a few words and heh presto, your about as farcical as some of the mad mullahs baying for infidel blood.
Take a stroll through the great hall of mirrors and have a bloody good hard look at yourselves.

dogtired · 11-10-2012, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveM

Mmmmmm hello peeps what was the OP question again?

Somewhat drifting.....................

Dave, seriously mate, have you ever seen a thread on here stay on topic?

Watch...
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Ok, now tell me what the OP was about.
The forum is populated by goldfish.*

* This information was bought to you by The Dog Institute of Higher Stuff.

LEE · 11-10-2012, 05:35 PM

Dog on the flip flop letting a sub species murdering arse hole live is just a waste of air and space. We will have to agree to disagree...I have worked all my adult life helping people from EMS to the hospital...I even was a SP in the service. Like many others I have been a productive citizen and I show empathy if it is deserved but for this ...nope not a bit.