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D41 · 11-09-2012, 05:19 PM

Assad went out and killed 38,000 people personally??

HAP · 11-09-2012, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by D41

Assad went out and killed 38,000 people personally??

You think he didn't order it done? What could be the difference of pulling the trigger 77 times, plus the wounded, yourself and ordering the killing of 38,000 and reading the reports from your killers every day?

The killing of any body is horrendous and the guy in Norway needed executed, not imprisoned. War crimes trials today treat mass genocidal killers they same way as Norway does it's killers. Jail for 25 years. BFD.

Sorry if you don't see the hypocrisy I do of how much effort we put into lambasting one killer and never mentioning another . IMHO only of course and with that I with draw.

D41 · 11-09-2012, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HAP

You think he didn't order it done?

That's not what I asked.

RICHW · 11-09-2012, 09:09 PM

"Every time I start thinking the world is all bad, then I start seeing some people out having a good time on motorcycles, and it makes me take another look."
Steve McQueen

Boldor · 11-10-2012, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Silverado57

He should probably be put out of his misery.

Silverado's quote was only chosen because it is the first. I could've chosen any of them.

I seriously feel disturbed and sorry that any one of us Humans can reach such a fcuked up mental state and just as disturbed that we believe the answer is as simple as killing off the problem. There are so many reasons why this Bloke could've tripped out; I am not willing to judge him. If I lived in France, Netherlands or even England, I can't guarantee I would be as sane as I am now given the fcuked up ways their societies function regarding religious migration (I gather that was one of his main issues), though I doubt I would ever hack a group of campers up with a high powered rifle.

But I am extraordinarily lucky. I have only had minor infringements imposed on my freedom of choice and I don't have to compromise my beliefs or attitudes very much or very often.

I am surprised this kind of thing doesn't happen more frequently given the way society is structured and the way which differing cultures are forced to understand each other immediately, nor with any real support.

D41 · 11-10-2012, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Boldor

Silverado's quote was only chosen because it is the first. I could've chosen any of them.

I seriously feel disturbed and sorry that any one of us Humans can reach such a fcuked up mental state and just as disturbed that we believe the answer is as simple as killing off the problem. There are so many reasons why this Bloke could've tripped out; I am not willing to judge him. If I lived in France, Netherlands or even England, I can't guarantee I would be as sane as I am now given the fcuked up ways their societies function regarding religious migration (I gather that was one of his main issues), though I doubt I would ever hack a group of campers up with a high powered rifle.

But I am extraordinarily lucky. I have only had minor infringements imposed on my freedom of choice and I don't have to compromise my beliefs or attitudes very much or very often.

I am surprised this kind of thing doesn't happen more frequently given the way society is structured and the way which differing cultures are forced to understand each other immediately, nor with any real support.

If you are not willing to judge someone who murdered so many people in such a brutal way then what are you capable of judging...??

The answer is 'nothing', BTW.

Thruxton-Texas · 11-10-2012, 02:47 AM

Prisoners with media access ALWAYS complain about conditions; most of them over trivial issues. If conditions are truly harsh, they generally have no media access to begin with. He's just waking up to the harsh reality that it's supposed to be punishment. They're going to take away his life; one day at a time rather than all at once. I don't see the Norwegian government letting him out anytime in the foreseeable future. ....................James.

DaveM · 11-10-2012, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by saphena

The Norwegian convicted of the massacre of 77 people last year has said he is being held in "inhumane" conditions.

Anders Behring Breivik complained in a letter to the prison service that his coffee is served cold, he does not have enough butter for his bread, and he is not allowed moisturiser.

In the letter, he complains that the cell is poorly decorated and has no view. "I highly doubt that there are worse detention facilities in Norway," he writes.
Among his other complaints are:

the handcuffs he wears when being moved around the prison "are too sharp and "cut in his wrist"
the cell is too cold, forcing him to wear three layers of clothes
he has to rush his morning shave and brushing of teeth
light and television switches are outside the cell, so he has to ask for help to change channel or sleep.

Poor baby.

I am so sympathetic to his plight NOT!

IMHO I'd rather spend the money on 2 .22 shells and not have to listen to his whining.

Boldor · 11-10-2012, 02:54 AM

I don't think that's my point, Dee.

Shouldn't we be more interested in what initiated such behaviour and not immediately suppose that the whole of the problem lies between the ears of this deranged individual? What if - just for sake of rational interest - we have issues in the way we treat people socially now days that exacerbate weaknesses in peoples' psyches?

I am not trying to suggest at any level that we don't need to immediately remove such individuals from free society.

welshrob · 11-10-2012, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Boldor

I seriously feel disturbed and sorry that any one of us Humans can reach such a fcuked up mental state and just as disturbed that we believe the answer is as simple as killing off the problem. There are so many reasons why this Bloke could've tripped out; I am not willing to judge him. If I lived in France, Netherlands or even England, I can't guarantee I would be as sane as I am now given the fcuked up ways their societies function regarding religious migration (I gather that was one of his main issues), though I doubt I would ever hack a group of campers up with a high powered rifle.

But I am extraordinarily lucky. I have only had minor infringements imposed on my freedom of choice and I don't have to compromise my beliefs or attitudes very much or very often.

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Good post, dude. I`m on the same page.