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11-12-2012, 12:16 AM
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I think we should just get "The girl with the dragon tattoo "to visit him .She seemed to have a novel approach to sorting these things out .
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11-12-2012, 12:38 AM
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I`d hate to be a prison warder or jailer or whatever they call them these days, looking after someone on a "will die in prison" proper life sentence. They have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Scarey.
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11-12-2012, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by IBALEE
Sorry the only punishment that is a cures is the death penalty...not to be a wise arse but repeat offenses are very common. How do you deter or stop it?
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See my earlier post. Norway has a much, much lower repeat offence rate. Something like 20pc, versus our 50,and your 60 percent. Of course, a dead criminal can't offend, but you can't kill all your criminals... Who will run your banks???
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11-12-2012, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Demonic
you can't kill all your criminals... Who will run your banks???
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The politicians?
Oh wait, you said kill all the criminals.
Sorry, couldn't resist!
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11-12-2012, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Boldor
Are you of the understanding that antibiotics just kill the bad guys?
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No, they just kill the ones who aren't immune.
In the human race this is analogous to people who don't have a genetic predisposition to not murdering others.
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11-12-2012, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by spank86
No, they just kill the ones who aren't immune.
In the human race this is analogous to people who don't have a genetic predisposition to not murdering others.
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assuming the whole antibiotic analogy is valid and can be pushed far enough, wouldn't overuse of the technique encourage the rise in numbers of resistant strains?
ie we would have a gradual increase in the numbers of offenders who are better at avoiding detection or capture? (ie strains that are good at impersonating those who don't tend to commit murder)
just in case... I am not being completely serious here.
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11-12-2012, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by jonkster
assuming the whole antibiotic analogy is valid and can be pushed far enough, wouldn't overuse of the technique encourage the rise in numbers of resistant strains?
ie we would have a gradual increase in the numbers of offenders who are better at avoiding detection or capture? (ie strains that are good at impersonating those who don't tend to commit murder)
just in case... I am not being completely serious here.
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I am glad you aren't serious. For a moment there I thought you were on to me and my kind.
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11-12-2012, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jonkster
assuming the whole antibiotic analogy is valid and can be pushed far enough, wouldn't overuse of the technique encourage the rise in numbers of resistant strains?
ie we would have a gradual increase in the numbers of offenders who are better at avoiding detection or capture? (ie strains that are good at impersonating those who don't tend to commit murder)
just in case... I am not being completely serious here.
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I recognise that I haven't been very coherent in my last few posts but you seem to have got the gist.
Yes, there's two likely outcomes, one that the number of killers in society will decrease, at least in the short term and the second is that those that remain will be better at it.
Of course in this respect there's no difference between life without parole and the death penalty, assuming you don't allow conjugal visits of course.
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11-12-2012, 09:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spank86
He's right there probably aren't worse detention facilities in Norway. Do you think we could find a country that DOES have worse facilities to move him to?
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Haha!
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11-12-2012, 09:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spank86
No, they just kill the ones who aren't immune.
In the human race this is analogous to people who don't have a genetic predisposition to not murdering others.
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So, do we spare also the ones with the best eye color, or skin color, or body type? In a free world, you can't imprison someone who hasn't committed a crime simply because they have the exact same mental condition as someone who did. We all still have a free will.
The is, if you weren't being serious.
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