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11-08-2012, 05:16 PM
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Helmets
Since it seems we have a lot of opinions about riding boots and which one have better protection.. What do we think about helmet? Is riding without a visor worse than riding without boots? Are 3/4 helmets safe? This is from my wreck a couple of weeks ago at 25 mph.
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11-08-2012, 05:20 PM
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Specific tools for specific jobs. My grand-Dad always said words to that effect.
Open face helmets in town where you need peripheral vision, and open face helmet provide MUCH better vision in every respect.
Full face for touring and tracking.
I ride without eye protection in town almost exclusively, but virtually NEVER ride without boots. Hope that addresses your question.
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11-08-2012, 05:30 PM
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I have three helmets...full face...3/4 and Davada pudding bowl...
FF 75% of the time...3/4 23% of the time and Davida only once and a while...
Now what kind of oil and tires should I use?... 
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11-08-2012, 05:39 PM
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After seeing my buddy's jaw wired for 3 months after a wreck with a 3/4 helmet I'll always wear a full face but that's just me. Wear what you like...hell, wear sneakers if that floats your boat.
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11-08-2012, 05:41 PM
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If you ride behind my bike you NEED a helmet.
My bridgestones are muck chuckers of the highest order, just the other weekend they threw a stone smack into the middle of my mates visor and there's a chip there that's not going away.
It may also have been my fault that the r1 I overtook had to pull over with a holed radiator.
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11-08-2012, 06:03 PM
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Don't know why people assume a 3/4 helmet has better peripheral vision than a full; most are the same in that respect.
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11-08-2012, 06:33 PM
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How do you reckon that Owen? It's not an assumption, it's a cold hard fact. Full face helmets restrict vision and head movement - especially if you have clip-on bars.
Do you shoulder check when changing lanes?
Do you have drivers nudge their bonnets in behind your knee?
All these things are better done/seen with an open face helmet.
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11-08-2012, 06:37 PM
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Full Coverage for me.
I'll take the tradeoff for improved safety. 3/4 helmets are great until you hit the road face first...
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11-08-2012, 07:05 PM
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Whats the statistic? 75% of head impacts in motorcycle crashes are to the jaw line and front of the face, right? Seems like common sense to wear something that provides protection there, but that's just me.
If I was putting around under 35 mph, I might be more inclined to an open helmet, but I'm usually going a good bit faster. I don't think there is any reduced vision either - you just have to get used to a full faced helmet.
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11-08-2012, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ride4321
After seeing my buddy's jaw wired for 3 months after a wreck with a 3/4 helmet I'll always wear a full face but that's just me. Wear what you like...hell, wear sneakers if that floats your boat. 
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I don't think sneakers make a very good helmet.
My data point: FF all the time. Haven't worn an open helmet since the 80s on a dirt bike.
Heck, I recall one time when I lived in Indiana (no helmet law) and went for a ride without a helmet. Got on the highway and managed to suck a contact lens right out of my eye. Of course, the wind blast was making my eyes water so bad I could barely tell anyway. And that was with sunglasses on. So again, I always go FF.
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