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Old 11-08-2012, 08:51 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I won't ride on the street without a full face helmet. I may be the only one, but I like my face.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:54 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I like my EXO-900 transition helmet. Never transitioned it to a 3/4 but love that it goes up. Very convenient. Will always buy transition from now on

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Old 11-08-2012, 09:11 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Personally, my I can't see beyond or into the limits of my full face helmet so I doubt my peripheral vision would be better with a 1/2 or 3/4 helmet. I do know I'm more comfortable in a full face regardless of the climate. It's a no brainer for me, full face all the time. Open face means dehydration in warm weather, cold in cold weather. Exhaustion plays havoc on the mind and my full face helps protect from that. I don't think we need to mention road debris, etc. I think the only reason to wear less is for style.
I am not pushing my point because I want ANYONE to change their ways, but here are a few point to consider.

1. You are correct that helmet does NOT block your peripheral vision IF you are looking dead ahead. But when you are changing lanes, hopefully you are looking over your shoulder and your eyes are turned to the direction you want to move. Would you dare suggest that with your eyes turned to one side you cannot see the padding of the inside of your full face helmet? I can - lots of it. And the bit that I can see is blocking exactly where I want to look. This is not the case in my open face lid.

2. Where lanes come together, merge, whatever and traffic is crawling along, I often have cars "push the issue", see if they can muscle me out. They approach most commonly from the side to the rear. With an open face helmet you can see precisely where they are in relation to your bike if you look down and under your arm. Can't do that with a full face either.

3. If you ride with clip-ons, to turn your head to any great extent you have to lift the chin of your full face helmet over your shoulder to look behind you. Once you have extended your neck (tilted your head back) you cannot rotate as far BUT in a full face you need to rotate FURTHER because the padding obscures your view again because your eyes are turned to the side.

I am not here to fight about the issue as to which helmet you want to wear or how protected by it you feel. But I will contest the idea that you can see just as much from a full face as you can from an open face.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:35 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I am not pushing my point because I want ANYONE to change their ways, but here are a few point to consider.

1. You are correct that helmet does NOT block your peripheral vision IF you are looking dead ahead. But when you are changing lanes, hopefully you are looking over your shoulder and your eyes are turned to the direction you want to move. Would you dare suggest that with your eyes turned to one side you cannot see the padding of the inside of your full face helmet? I can - lots of it. And the bit that I can see is blocking exactly where I want to look. This is not the case in my open face lid.

2. Where lanes come together, merge, whatever and traffic is crawling along, I often have cars "push the issue", see if they can muscle me out. They approach most commonly from the side to the rear. With an open face helmet you can see precisely where they are in relation to your bike if you look down and under your arm. Can't do that with a full face either.

3. If you ride with clip-ons, to turn your head to any great extent you have to lift the chin of your full face helmet over your shoulder to look behind you. Once you have extended your neck (tilted your head back) you cannot rotate as far BUT in a full face you need to rotate FURTHER because the padding obscures your view again because your eyes are turned to the side.

I am not here to fight about the issue as to which helmet you want to wear or how protected by it you feel. But I will contest the idea that you can see just as much from a full face as you can from an open face.
I always look over my shoulder when changing lanes or making any move on the street. Again, I can see just as much with a full face as without, at least I think I can. I never see plastic so I guess I'm looking through the shield. I think that if you can't look over your shoulder it might be time to reconsider riding regardless of the bike you're on. With clip ons I actually found it easier to look down and over. As an older guy that movement for my neck was preferred. It sucked the rest of the ride but worked fine while changing lanes.

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I'm a bit with ride4321 on this Bol.

Maybe it is a combination of bike and rider geometry but I ride wearing a FF on a bike with clipons and always do lifesaver looks over my shoulder when changing lanes. Can't say I have ever really noticed movement restriction as much of a problem with them. I will pay more attention next time I am on the bike to see what I do and report back - perhaps I move my head a bit and swivel my eyes more when doing the look, I am not sure.

I agree that if I swivel my eyes the FF helmet does intrude on my vision but I would think most times I am not swiveling my eyes much at all when riding but instead am turning my head to look straight at things that I notice. Again next time I am on my bike I'll pay a bit more attention.

As far as FF over 3/4 - my 2c is whatever floats your boat. Both are a huge step above nothing as far as I am concerned. Brain damage is the one thing I want to mitigate above all else when riding and a helmet to me seems a small inconvenience for a huge potential benefit.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:21 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I have one rule that never falters. If a woman I like wants to ride with me she wears a full face. I like the way a pretty woman's jaw/lips/cheeks look and behave. I won't be the one to mess that good stuff up. If she rides her own bike she can chose for herself but she gets the stink eye...if I like her.
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Mad Max is on the tv as I'm writing this. The helmets in that movie are gruesome awesome:

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Old 11-08-2012, 10:44 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I think that if you can't look over your shoulder it might be time to reconsider riding regardless of the bike you're on.

Valid point. It'll take a fair bit of convincing to get me to give up the 95 Speedie. They have a loooong reach on them and I haven't got a lanky build, hideously uncomfortable for long strops, epically Cool for a blat about town or a short strop outta town. It is the worst for shoulder checks.

It is more of a fashion before function bike and it was the one I think of when I start bagging full faces. My Duke sits me bolt upright.

As a courier, I rode a Boldor (CB900), more upright than the Triple. But even then, so often I'd catch a small movement in my peripheral vision (open faced riding) that changed my course to avoid altercation with say a pedestrian or a pushie courier or another vehicle.

I put a full face on one day as a courier and freaked out at how "distant" everything was. I don't know how to describe it better. Sounds are more distant, other people's facial communications - drivers and pedestrians. I just felt like I was trying to do my buttons up with gloves on - if that makes sense.

That "distant" feeling does not affect me on the open road or at the track.
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