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#8 ·
That didn't actually look dangerous though, except to the grass.
 
#9 ·
... and to any children crossing the grass to get to the school bus.
 
#15 ·
Of which there were clearly none.

Luckily humans are designed with apparatus that allows us to perceive objects in front of us.
 
#11 ·
That she did this on a regular basis is astounding. Kudos to the bus driver for setting up the sting. I wonder if the cop was given a heads up too.
 
#12 ·
Somebody should have hit her over the head with the idiot sign and thrown her in front of oncoming traffic. My son rides a school bus and if I lived in Cleveland I would surely be pitching a stink about the severity of the offense vs. the punishment. This habitual offender took children's lives into her hands on more than one occasion, I wish she would/could have been charged with attempted vehicular assault or manslaughter and sat some time in jail wearing that stupid sign. Screw that judge...
 
#14 ·
There is a place in society for alternative punishments, especially those which publicly shame the guilty. There is a reason why public stocks were used in the old days.

I like the idea that those convicted of DUI having to put bright colored DUI license plates on their cars.
 
#18 ·
Just watched it in fullscreen, she does go a bit quicker than it first looked.
 
#20 ·
I don't stop for sacred cows either.


Although I did today, the boss would have been very unhappy if I'd put a dent in the van that big.
 
#21 ·
There you go!

The fine in Maryland for passing a school bus with flashing lights and stop sign extended is $570. It's not taken lightly, although plenty of people do it anyway, and every now and then a child is hit.
 
#22 ·
thats a lot, it's perfectly ok to pass a bus of any sort in the UK (as long as you stay in the road)

We take the attitude that kids should either be taught to cross the road safely or removed from the gene pool
 
#23 · (Edited)
Perhaps we value the lives/safety of our school children more than you do 'over there'. ;) As Baltobonneville stated earlier, you won't get far with these sort of frivolous comments. I rather doubt that such attitudes are shared by the majority of your own countrymen.

Because we are so geographically spread out here in the States, school buses are a fact of life here. It's more cost effective to build larger schools in more centralized locations; the buses are owned or contracted by the individual school districts.

It is generally the law in all fifty states that when ANY school bus stops to load or unload passengers, and the driver turns on it's flashing red lights (some buses are equipped with a retractable stop sign that extends out to the normal passing side), ALL traffic must stop until the lights are off and the sign retracted. Violation of this is considered a very serious offense; thus the fines are very high and usually disqualify the offender from taking a Driver's Safety Course instead of paying the fine. Yes, it can be a PITA to have to stop; but it serves the greater good.

While some of the kids riding these buses are as young as five or six; even the older ones can behave unpredictably. I can tell you from experience, children are not miniature adults, and therefore cannot be held to the same standards of cognitive reasoning. The driver in the video committed an egregiously reckless offense; the side she passed on is the same side that the door is on. :eek: I don't care how entitled an individual thinks they are, nobody needs to be in that big a hurry. IMO, she got off lightly. :mad: ........James.
 
#24 ·
You may think its a frivolous comment but the fact remains that passing school buses is some thing done by thousands of British cars on a daily basis (on the road, driving on the pavement is illegal here too) at speeds of up to 30mph with very little incident.


I myself went to school In a village served by three different busses that would offload on the main (30mph) road with passing cars, although I walked to school so never got on one.
 
#25 ·
You may think its a frivolous comment but the fact remains that passing school buses is some thing done by thousands of British cars on a daily basis (on the road, driving on the pavement is illegal here too) at speeds of up to 30mph with very little incident.
The foregoing is merely a statement of fact about the current traffic laws in the UK, and has little to do with the incident being discussed. The incident happened in the US and can considered by any reasonable person to be reckless behavior. The part about "removed from the gene pool" is what I find frivolous. Do you seriously advocate the running down of children who make mistakes? I didn't think so. ..............James.
 
#26 ·
Personally or as a nation?


I'd be prepared to go to a three strikes rule myself.
 
#29 ·
Normally I'm told that since I have no children I'm not allowed to have an opinion on any topic involving them. So I was going to stay out of this.

But I just couldn't help myself.

So I do agree with the people who've said the penalty seemed light, I'm not saying it to 'save the children', at least not that specifically. I mean really-school bus or not, anybody who makes a practice of regularly cutting down the sidewalk to make a pass is just asking to have a book heaved in their general direction.

On the other hand, I agree with Dog that we do overly coddle our kids and it would do them some good to learn basic street crossing safety by the time they're old enough to be riding a bus.
 
#30 ·


I used to go to school on one of these and not only did the traffic not stop when the bus did, frequently we didn't wait for the bus to stop either.

Having said that, the rule in the states is to stop for the school bus, the woman was off the scale of stupidity and the penalty seems stupidly light.
 
#33 ·
Make it all the time and we'll both be happy, the ignore buttons there for a reason.
 
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