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Old 11-08-2012, 12:31 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Yes, and for me it always seems to be the first turn I make that day and then I want to slap myself and say, "Stupid! It's not summer anymore!" I'm just lucky I haven't done it yet.

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thank you. Somehow I think if you haven't done it yet, you're probably not going to. You've ridden a little more than I have.


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But, yeah, under 50F, take things easier. And if you're down to freezing or below, take even more care. Tell yourself you're on a big cruiser and ride corners like you would on one of those.
Ok, the Speedmaster isn't a "big cruiser" but it's not that small, either. 550lbs.

And I will say I feel a lot more connected to the road on the Sprint than I do on the Speedmaster. If anything remotely funky happens on the Sprint (small rock, road grit, etc) I can feel it and intuitively correct for it. Not so much on the Speedmaster. The SM may be leaned-back and comfy, but it's actually more work to put it where you want it.

I know, this isn't news to you or anyone here. But it's just interesting to me how different the bikes are, and how much more in tune with the bike and the road I feel on the Sprint.

So very much point taken, thanks.
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Glad you weren't hurt. The bike can be fixed.

You have gotten lots of good advice here. I will only add that newer riders will benefit from an on-road course like Stayin' Safe. Excellent stuff.

If you're in Philly, you'll have some good options for class locations.

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Dead Impressive.


So how'd your front end come up 9990?

I'd also like to re-state that road tyres are not very temperature dependent. The road may get slippery in winter, but your tyres do NOT! Practically, it is not possible to allow mugs out on public roads with temperature dependent tyres. Only race slicks and alike have traction that is VERY dependent on temperature.
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Great Scot, Dog, how the hell did you bruise the inside of your arm like that?!?
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Was out this PM...temp low 40's. Slid twice....looked like a diesel spill on one....rear just slid out a foot or two until it hit clean pavement. Got to watch out when braking/riding in the "Trash Strip" in the middle of the road...lots of oil and diesel spills out there just waiting for you! Second time was sand....got to get my "winter riding" mentality on.

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Great Scot, Dog, how the hell did you bruise the inside of your arm like that?!?
20 mph lowside, lost the front end 100 foot from home, 100% my fault.
Hyper extended my elbow and did a butload of damage to the joint. Didn't stop me springing up, and getting the bike upright and out of there as fast as I could. Low speed offs are embarrassing.




...plus the bike wasn't registered or roadworthy at the time, didn't want anyone "official" turning up.
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Glad you weren't hurt. The bike can be fixed.

You have gotten lots of good advice here. I will only add that newer riders will benefit from an on-road course like Stayin' Safe. Excellent stuff.

If you're in Philly, you'll have some good options for class locations.

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Silverado,

Thank you. I had heard in general about advanced instruction, hadn't heard of these guys. They look great -- much appreciated.
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Was out this PM...temp low 40's. Slid twice....looked like a diesel spill on one....rear just slid out a foot or two until it hit clean pavement. Got to watch out when braking/riding in the "Trash Strip" in the middle of the road...lots of oil and diesel spills out there just waiting for you! Second time was sand....got to get my "winter riding" mentality on.

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Be careful. Ok, that sounds odd coming from me. But seriously, glad you merely slid the back end around and didn't have an off.
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20 mph lowside, lost the front end 100 foot from home, 100% my fault.
Hyper extended my elbow and did a butload of damage to the joint. Didn't stop me springing up, and getting the bike upright and out of there as fast as I could. Low speed offs are embarrassing.




...plus the bike wasn't registered or roadworthy at the time, didn't want anyone "official" turning up.
Serious ouch. Hopefully all healed now? Assuming 'home' meant home back Down Under.

thanks again for the advice earlier to chalk it up to experience, learn from it, and keep going... you inspire with your dedication.
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So how'd your front end come up 9990?

I'd also like to re-state that road tyres are not very temperature dependent. The road may get slippery in winter, but your tyres do NOT! Practically, it is not possible to allow mugs out on public roads with temperature dependent tyres. Only race slicks and alike have traction that is VERY dependent on temperature.
Hi Bo

bare in mind that a number of m/c tyre brands have street legal race tyres and these are temperature dependent, usually a medium race compound with a few cuts to give a "tread".

I have used many sets of both Michelin street legal race tyres and also Bridgestone street legal race tyres.

If it is cold enough and the road is cold these tyres will not get to a temperature to offer decent grip.

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