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Old 11-11-2012, 10:24 AM   #61 (permalink)
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By passing stringent anti pollution and noise laws, the government has effectively saved me from the dreaded two stroke.
Did someone say Harley Davidson?
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Old 11-11-2012, 02:26 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Did someone say Harley Davidson?
Sorry, what was that? Couldn't hear you over the noise.
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It was mentioned briefly earlier, but the outboard motor industry has not forgotten about the 2-stroke. Take a look at the BRP offerings in particular such as Evenrude's E-tec line from 25 to 250 hp if you want to see what a modern 2-stroke might look like next to it's 4-stroke rivals.

Are they better than their 4-stroke competition? Maybe, maybe not, but they are certainly comparable if not better in almost all categories. Power to weight, noise, pollution, maintenance cost, etc The only thing they seem to suffer from is public perception, as it's true their forefathers were smokey, polluting enviro-disasters. But these new-tech motors are very impressive.

Snowmobiles are one of the few other places were development has kept pace between the 2 and 4 stroke, and again they are easily comparable. Heck, most mountain sled riders I know wouldn't have a 4-stroke as weight is just so critical to those guys.

So I don't think you can argue that the 2-stroke is dead-end technology. It's simply the victim of political maneuvering.
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Micro lights too, lots of them are two stroke because of the power to weight ratio.

Unfortunately they're banning them there too and changing them for a four stroke results in an unbalanced, underpowered craft.
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Did someone say Harley Davidson?
HAP didn't count HDs because he secretly loves them. His anti-tractor stance is just a ruse, sort of like a homophobe who is secretly gay.
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So - Dr Logan, while on the topic of patient HAP, why do you think he has a preference for fore-aft v-configurations instead of east-west. Could there be a subliminal implications? Should we adjust his medication accordingly?
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Ah never mind all the technical stuff, two strokes sound ruddy awful. Four strokes sound better, unless they are these Japanese four cylinder rev boxes then there's nowt between it.
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So - Dr Logan, while on the topic of patient HAP, why do you think he has a preference for fore-aft v-configurations instead of east-west. Could there be a subliminal implications? Should we adjust his medication accordingly?
I think a lobotomy is the only answer for that twisted old git.
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Uh uh (with head shake). I fear he'll start urinating in the corner of the tele room even more frequently.
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