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11-06-2012, 05:21 PM
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http://www.supereliminator.com/SE%2005-10.pdf
A little 2 stroke for the Neanderthals and Luddites.
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11-06-2012, 05:23 PM
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Nort did you post that hunka to suggest that Tooheys ought to buried? Because this is what a backyarder can do with your horrible MachIII.
Think what the factories could've done by now!
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11-06-2012, 05:29 PM
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Nort did you post that hunka to suggest that Tooheys ought to buried? Because this is what a backyarder can do with your horrible MachIII.
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You see that god awful pregnant pipe ending in two tiny toy exhaust tips? That is not something more than 10 people in the entire world would buy today in the age of Aquarius. Hmmm, maybe that was the age before this current age. Any way it is ugly, spews oil and nasty exhaust and will never return, nnnnever be built by a factory again. Never I say hahahaha. 
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11-06-2012, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by HAP
Any way it is ugly, spews oil and nasty exhaust.....
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All wrong!
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11-06-2012, 06:31 PM
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16 of Joey Dunlop's 26 TT victories were on the humble 2 strokes 
alas any 2 stroke bikes I had as a kid were buckets of crock, but still love 'em
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11-06-2012, 07:57 PM
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So four stroke MotoGP bikes and motocross bikes ALL over the world running faster lap times and breaking lap records was a political decision?
Bol, that my friend, is ridiculous.
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11-06-2012, 08:06 PM
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What? No mention of 3 strokes(rotary) and 6 strokes (oh it exists as the answer to a question no one asked) engines? For shame....
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11-06-2012, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleJoe
So four stroke MotoGP bikes and motocross bikes ALL over the world running faster lap times and breaking lap records was a political decision?
Bol, that my friend, is ridiculous.
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Are you comparing 250's to 450's on the dirt?
Even if you compare the same capacity, which is still akin to comparing apples and oranges, of course the one that you cease putting R&D into will eventually run slower. Quicker lap times are just as much about tyre technology.
The point of the thread (due apples and oranges thing) was not to chose which is best but to discuss whether or not the strokers should've been taken from us.
Strokers were outlawed for political reasons, not engineering reasons.
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11-06-2012, 09:05 PM
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Okay Bo, the ball is in your court.
1.Tell us why we should all push for a revival of smelly, noisy 2 stroke motorcycles to be developed for you to watch at the races.
2. Explain why a manufacturer would spend a fortune creating and developing an environmentally acceptable 2 stroke when the entire world's governments think all ICE stink and need controlled via emission standard that a fart violates.
3. Please describe how motocross, superbike and or GP would be better off with a 2 stroke race series when noise controls are now threatening a lot of existing tracks with closure.
4. A side from your favorite Indian owned motorcycle company and Yamaha what other brands are actively working on the magic bullet 2 stroke you believe to be just around the corner.
Thank you in advance for the succinct and to the average Joe, answers to this question as to whether we should bring back a dead beast of yore. respectfully
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11-06-2012, 09:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HAP
Okay Bo, the ball is in your court.
1.Tell us why we should all push for a revival of smelly, noisy 2 stroke motorcycles to be developed for you to watch at the races.
2. Explain why a manufacturer would spend a fortune creating and developing an environmentally acceptable 2 stroke when the entire world's governments think all ICE stink and need controlled via emission standard that a fart violates.
3. Please describe how motocross, superbike and or GP would be better off with a 2 stroke race series when noise controls are now threatening a lot of existing tracks with closure.
4. A side from your favorite Indian owned motorcycle company and Yamaha what other brands are actively working on the magic bullet 2 stroke you believe to be just around the corner.
Thank you in advance for the succinct and to the average Joe, answers to this question as to whether we should bring back a dead beast of yore. respectfully
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I believe I answered number 1 and 4 up-thread?
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