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Strokes - Was the world a better place when we had a choice?

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#1 ·
So this is the opening thread for the final showdown. Engineers and energy consultants around the globe are hanging on the edges of their seats to know the results of this oh-so important debate.

In the Red Corner (cause red is faster) we have the defenders of the mighty Two Stroke. A piece of engineering whose beauty comes from its sheer simplicity and explosive power. Those arguing the case for the beautiful Toohey do not look down upon the complicated and tedious Four Stroke - we can appreciate its worth - we are merely arguing that the Two Stroke was a most worthy piece of machinery and should not have been killed off by politics (and whatever else brought about its demise).

Over there in the Blue/Green Corner we have the narrow minded laymen who fell for the environmental arguments and believe they were a worthy platform from which to launch an attack at the Toohey. Their main spokesman is HAP - good luck - HAP is confused about the difference between a two-stoke and a steam engine. And if you pull him up on it he calls you nit-picking. And they argue that the world only needs the Four Stroke for their minds are not broad enough to cope with choice.


Don't forget to keep your colours flying men. Fight hard and valiantly. No biting, gouging, scratching or any other nasty underhanded techniques. And stay awake HAP.
 
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I can't believe how much fun it is to post links. Dog was a great teacher. Hit about the head only 4-5 times.

Any way for both of you 2-stroke wanna bees here is real men on real 2-strokes riding on real courses.

Oh, I have been through the "rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy" phase of life.
 
#75 ·
Wow HAP.

Is it HAP? The impostor who is posting worthy material: what have you done with HAP?

That vid even has a scooty chic in it. I love scooty chics.
 
#77 ·
Well

Back when I was a lad two strokes were cheap, simple, very economical, and slow.

Then they got fast, (and very complicated, but the complication is in the shape of the bits rather than the number of bits) and the faster they got the thirstier they got.

And they sound like a tom cat being neutered without anaesthetic, which is the best of all reasons for keeping then in museums where we can stand and stare in amazement that such a fuel inefficient cycle could ever have been considered sensible, and never feel the need to fire them up and release that hideous noise.

Rob
 
#78 ·
:) Luckily, here in little old England, the mighty 2 stroke hasn't yet been banished to history. This means that I can terrorise other road users, alongside fellow true believers, on my wonderful Hustler. My H2 and H1 buddies get me on the straights, but I get them in the twisties, all to a screaming sound track, and a blue, hazy backdrop. Heaven! Of course we should have a choice. Most of today's riders who are under 45, have never experienced the joy of hitting the power band and having the front come up! They don't deserve to never have that thrill!
 
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