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Old 11-06-2012, 12:01 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Up until recently I've owned almost nothing but two-strokes, YZ, RT, RD, RZ, and even the RG pictured above (please don't ask why I sold the RG - tears will flow). And truth be told, if a new, decent-sized two-stroke became available, and I had to choose, my newly bloved Thruxton would dissapear in a the blink of an eye. I wouldn't even hesitate.

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Old 11-06-2012, 12:06 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I like both, but let's look at the racing aspect of it.
In 2002, MotoGP replaced 500 cc class, allowing 990cc four-strokes to race alongside 500 cc two-strokes and they trounced the two-strokes. It made zero sense to continue to develop the two-stroke.
I'm not sure of the exact year, and don't feel like looking it up, but back in the 90s 4-stroke motocross bikes began beating two-strokes as well. Why continue to develop something that isn't winning?
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:10 PM   #23 (permalink)
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With all that I said about the snowmobile, let me say that I prefer my off-road bike to be a four stroke because its easier to ride slower in technical singletrack.

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Old 11-06-2012, 02:20 PM   #24 (permalink)
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You just cant see or smell the smoke from the factory that has to make all the extra parts for the four. I can't either, but I know it's there.
I'd like to see that quantified before I'd put much stock in it. It reminds me of the people who don't like Priuses (Prii?) because there's allegedly more polluting overhead in the manufacture, somehow, maybe the batteries. It may well be true, but it doesn't mean much and it's not a convincing argument until it's quantified and evaluated.
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I was looking for information on that, but evidently that is the only thing lacking on the internet. I was also thinking that initially a four stroke takes more to manufacture, but two strokes will take more top end rebuilds over the course of its lifespan, so it evens out. You might not be convinced by a lack of statistics, but how long have prius'sesezz been around? long enough for a definitive study to be run, results compiled, and conclusions reached? Possibly such a thing is happening as we speak.

Anyway, technology has done great things for two strokes, my 96 polaris left black spots on the snow when it idled still. My 2010 doesn't.
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Balto. Dog found an interesting study showing why the prius did cause more damage to the environment than an evil Hummer SUV. Gist of the article had to do with rare earth materials used to build batteries and how ruthless the Chinese were in digging them out of the earth and processing them into what ever it was.

Pollution is just that pollution no matter what wonderful thing is being made.
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HAP, the problem with your argument is that 4strokes are the older technology that's been dragged back into the limelight by greenies with an agenda but no real understanding of the inns and outs of things, two strokes are the newer technology so 4stroke=steam engine.
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The question of over two-strokes vs. four shouldn't focus on pollution - because the correct answer to that specific question is neither. The bottom line is we're all polluters, rationalizing our preferences in motorcycles in terms of pollution is silly. Because let's face it if any of us cared more about pollution than how we choose to get around we wouldn't be driving motorcycles.

Now back to the real answer: two-strokes sound better, smell better, and when designed and tuned properly have this magical thing called a powerband. They also make you taller, better looking, stronger, slimmer, give you whiter teeth, make you appear better dressed, and ultimatetly get more chicks. And that my friends, is why they rule.

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And to prove my point - Meet Charlie. He gets laid twice a day. Look what he's riding. Coincidence? I doubt it.

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