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Old 11-03-2012, 12:14 PM   #61 (permalink)
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I just love reading all the suggestions and advice members here give to guys who crash. In most cases it is anhonest effort to review the accident and find ways it could have been avoided. In the case of wrecks happening in areas with photographers present the blame shifts to the surrounding people, the corner this, the corner that. He should have stood it up, leaned his ass off, rode a different bike. He was caught off guard, may have been a really great rider but???

No where has any one said what to me is obvious. He was in over his head, out of his skill level, riding a 10/10 when his experience was a 3 to begin with. He never thought any thing about the corner. His tiny brain was clogged with a huge ego. Why cut smucks slack when you can see he was out of his league?

The kind of bike didn't matter, the type of curve didn't matter. He is lucky to be alive and his bravado at the end is probably indicative of how he goes through his life. "Whoa, look at me, I aced that one".
LOL Ouch, Hap.

I raced AMA for 7 years back in the 70's-80's and fell off hundred's of times some comical, some pretty serious, breaking bones from my metatarsals to my neck and everywhere in between. Over my head? Sure (quite literally when I fractured my neck). No skill? um....Certainly not a ISDE rider, but decent.
Point. If you ride at your limits, no matter how high..or low, sooner or later you fall down, and you don't know what those limits are till you pass them.
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:02 PM   #62 (permalink)
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He was riding a Street GLide. It's two inches lower than a Road King. It ain't a heeler.

There's a bit more clearance on most of the other models.
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:08 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Take a look at the footage. If you still don't see it, take a look at the 14 sec. point.
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Old 11-03-2012, 03:45 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Old 11-03-2012, 05:17 PM   #65 (permalink)
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From what I see in the video there is no reason to think he may have any broken limbs.
My meaning is not getting understood.

NEVER STAND STRAIGHT UP FROM A BIKE FALL. IT CAN TURN A SIMPLE BREAK INTO A COMPOUND FRACTURE.

The amount of adrenaline surging through your system after a bike fall is enough to make you unaware of pain. Take stock of what just happened and what damage is done before you swagger away from your accident. Whether this particular Knuckle-head, clowning about on his HD wearing only a T-shirt, looked like he broke his leg or not is hardly the point. I think he could've easily smashed his left ankle anyway.



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That's a pretty good point, Wolf. It's a fairly low speed corner, so unless another vehicle gets into the mix, any injuries will almost always be minor.
Of all my "offs", only one high speed one caused me injury - it was a head on. Otherwise ALL my injuries came from low speed stacks.
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Old 11-03-2012, 05:20 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Alright mom. A wreck is never cool. It was just a poor attempt at humor.
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I agree with Boldor, there's a very nasty moment on the slow-motion part at around 0.34 where you see the guy's left foot get twisted around and dragged down....on a smaller bike like a sportbike it could well have ended up under the rear wheel, or even worse caught up inside the chain or the wheel & spokes themselves, which doesn't even bear thinking about.

In the guys defence, the nature of the wreck itself did kind of throw the guy back up onto his feet, so I can't really blame him for how he reacted, although he really should have taken a moment to sit down and take stock of himself.
I've witnessed enough crashes right in front of me on the track (two just the other week) and his reaction was actually rather subdued in comparison to the usual mini-tantrums I see.
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My meaning is not getting understood.

NEVER STAND STRAIGHT UP FROM A BIKE FALL. IT CAN TURN A SIMPLE BREAK INTO A COMPOUND FRACTURE.
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Not only compound but exposed or open which is worse from the stand point of infection. He also started meandering dazed in the middle of the street making himself susceptable to being hit.

I think you alll have over analyzed the accdient. He hit the curve too hard and banked too hard. He did not know his limitations and his bikes limitations. jmop
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Of all my "offs", only one high speed one caused me injury - it was a head on. Otherwise ALL my injuries came from low speed stacks.
'Cause you're weak and your bones are brittle?
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'Cause you're weak and your bones are brittle?
That could be taken as true IF I had only one high speed bingle, but I've had a few. I have only once been injured as a a result of coming a gutsa at high speed ONCE.

I've cummacroppa at low speed and been laid up more times than my memory can deal with.

According to the stats, coming off quickly is easier for me. It could also be that my high speed offs were mostly at the track.
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