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post #11 of 23 (permalink) Old 04-08-2012, 08:23 PM
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Basic head shape has everything to do with how a helmet fits. For a long time Shoei was for "round" shape, and Arai for "long oval". I'm the latter.

Nowadays, both of those premium brands (both still handmade, BTW) have at least two different shell shapes, but also adjustable and/or changeable inner pads to customize the fit. Because of that ability to customize fit so perfectly, Arai now strongly discourages their dealers from selling via the internet, and insists upon giving their dealers some rather detailed training on how to fit a helmet for a customer.

That's how I recently got my new Arai Signet Q. The dealer I choose to use is a riding gear only shop/cafe whose owner just attended his yearly training. My helmet was pricey, but it's such a perfect, snug-yet-comfortable fit that I'll never own anything but an Arai now.

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Just a few clarifications:

1) Snell does indeed certify open face helmets. They pass all the same tests as full face, aside from the jaw impact and visor strength ones, naturally. Most companies don't bother getting their open face lids tested, though. Snell charges for their certs, and since nobody uses open face in competition, most buyers don't care. Shoei and Arai both offer 3/4 helmets with a Snell cert. Bell may have as well, but I think they've switched to the ECE cert since it came out.

2) The DOT standard itself isn't a bad one. It's really quite similar to what the ECE is now requiring. The bad thing about DOT has always been that the manufacturer self-attests to compliance with the standard instead of being independently tested.

3) Many reputable helmet manufacturers are now getting their formerly DOT helmets ECE certified. As I said above, the DOT standard isn't the problem, it's the enforcement. If you want a good 3/4 helmet without spending a fortune, look for an ECE certified one.

As to the original question, I'll go with the old rule: wear what fits you. Bells are too round for my noggin. I've tried on Fulmers and they fit me quite nicely, but I haven't pulled the trigger on one yet.

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Thanks for the info Burphel.
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post #14 of 23 (permalink) Old 11-24-2012, 04:10 PM
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I own a Bell 500 and the quality, fit and finish are excellent. I can't speak for the Fulmer V2, but I've seen them and it also appears to be well made. On the topic of being "DOT Approved" - There's actually no such thing for motorcycle helmets. Even some manufacturer's and distributors mistakenly use this term. The DOT does not approve helmets. They only issue the standard and the manufacturer themselves certify that their helmet meets this standard. It's a type of honor system. The DOT does from time to time test some helmets however it's a very small percentage of what's being sold.

So in fact - the answer is "no" - A helmet does not have to pass a physical test in order to get a DOT certification.

Snell actually does perform comprehensive tests and certify each helmet which is submitted to them, however manufacturer's are not required to submit their helmets to Snell. IMHO it is a good marketing point to do so, but the vast majority of helmets out there are not Snell approved. Just because a helmet wasn't submitted to Snell for testing, doesn't mean it's less safe. Only that the manufacturer didn't want to pay to submit theirs for testing.

Just based on my personal experience, I've owned a Simpson 3/4, and also own an Arai RX-Q full-face, in addition to my Bell 500. The Arai is extremely nice, but at 1/5th the price, the Bell is real good. The liner, straps, D-rings, stitching, trim and other items are very high quality.

The "$10 head" cliche that's been floating around forever is a misnomer, as there's never been any testing or proof that a more expensive helmet is safer than a cheap one if they both meet the same standard.

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post #15 of 23 (permalink) Old 11-24-2012, 06:58 PM
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+1 on everything Burphel and PixMan said about Snell and 3/4 helmets. I have a Snell-approved RJ Platinum Shoei that I absolutely love. I had a hard time paying the price for my first helmet, but I never notice any discomfort while wearing it.

It does have me in a bit of a bind, though--I'm trying to find a less-expensive full-face for more protection; and while companies like HJC and make less expensive Snell-approved helmets that I have no concerns about safety-wise, they just don't feel nearly as comfortable and well-made as my Shoei.
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This helmet is marketed in the UK as "Hedtec" and in the US under a different name,
It is made in the same chinese factory as V2 helmets and it is rated Snell SA2010 which is compulsory for motorsport (though not bike sport) in the UK. Here it is the equivalent of $174
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The first helmet I ever bought was a Fulmer full coverage one, bought when I got my first bike (1973 T140 Bonneville) in 1976. I found out it value about 4 weeks later when a little old lady took a left turn from the right lane of 4-lane road as I was just coming alongside her.

When I got up I found my jeans torn to shreds (not a scratch on me), and a big flat spot on the side of the helmet's chin bar. From that day forward I swore I would never wear anything but a full coverage helmet. I never have and never will, though I guess something is better than nothing.

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post #18 of 23 (permalink) Old 11-25-2012, 09:30 AM
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When I decided I wanted a bike, the only way my wife would relent was if I always wore a helmet no matter where I went, and that the helmet preferably be Snell rated (she did her research). I wanted a full and a 3/4. I went went the HJC CL-16 for the full. After I decided on that one I stared researching open face Snell rated helmets and quickly learned that those aren't very common. In fact, until this thread I had only found one. It's a bit on the pricey side, but I hear that Shoei helmets are pretty comfortable and well built. I'm not a huge fan of the look, as it looks a bit police-ish, but I'll slap a sticker or two on it and commence with the fun.



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Originally Posted by mikeg15 View Post
This helmet is marketed in the UK as "Hedtec" and in the US under a different name,
Found it. Marketed in the US as Pyrotect - and cheaper than here too.
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post #20 of 23 (permalink) Old 11-25-2012, 02:41 PM
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Have both, wear both, prefer the Bell for fit and quality.


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