Triumphrat

D41 · 11-03-2012, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Boldor

But it's illegal to leave the track and rejoin while taking a position.

Certain riders get punished for breaking the rules, others do not.

The Laguna Seca incident brought audiences and excited fans back to the GP so went unpunished. Those who sell excitement and tickets are rewarded no matter.

Agree totally, although I don't think Rossi did it deliberately as I first thought, but he did make other passes in that race that were a bit dodgy.

As you say, he brings in more fans.....I think after he broke his leg and announced he'd be returning at Laguna ticket sales doubled, I remember reading that somewhere.

BKK Jack · 11-03-2012, 09:12 AM

I would think that the reason the Iberian peninsula has so many races is because it's the only place anywhere in Europe where the weather doesn't suck 11 1/2 months of the year.

HAP · 11-03-2012, 11:03 AM

Just think. Next year at this time we will all be saying "what a great train race series we got the privilege of watching all year". "Isn't it a shame that so many courses have gone broke". "Maybe the NASCAR rules of every one riding the same bike in turns next year will be more entertaining".

Contrary to some posts, The Canadian Pension fund is one of the leading profit return pension funds around. They not only bought up shares of the GP series but put $400 mill into F1 racing. Not as a passive investor though. They take a very active role in what they put money into. Read their bio.

The far flung reaches of China and other, takes 6 days to get there, courses will be gone I bet because there is no TV sponsorship money for those races and no one can spend that admission and air fare fortune to attend.

I also believe they met privately with Honda with out Ezpeleta just because they wanted to hear other alternatives to a very narrow minded approach he has taken. One mention was the appearance of more wild card riders, maybe even on year old machines. Spice things up and make it way more appealing to spectators and sponsors.

Of course I made all of this up Bo and it doesn't appear in Bloomberg or Reuters investment interviews. Nope, just wild wishes.

Rocket XIII · 11-03-2012, 11:08 AM

I don't know any of you guys personally, but the posts HAP made to precipitate the personal attacks, were perfectly logical, and consistent with the picture I see of Grand Prix motorcycle racing too.

Y'all have put a whole lot of fertilizer on a heretofore interesting thread, and although it did grow, the general smell of the fertilizer detracts from the beauty of the growth.

All motorcycle forums go this route.

Love the motorcycles .... ambivalent about the motorcyclists.

Boldor · 11-03-2012, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HAP

Just think. Next year at this time we will all be saying "what a great train race series we got the privilege of watching all year". "Isn't it a shame that so many courses have gone broke". "Maybe the NASCAR rules of every one riding the same bike in turns next year will be more entertaining".

Contrary to some posts, The Canadian Pension fund is one of the leading profit return pension funds around. They not only bought up shares of the GP series but put $400 mill into F1 racing. Not as a passive investor though. They take a very active role in what they put money into. Read their bio.

The far flung reaches of China and other, takes 6 days to get there, courses will be gone I bet because there is no TV sponsorship money for those races and no one can spend that admission and air fare fortune to attend.

I also believe they met privately with Honda with out Ezpeleta just because they wanted to hear other alternatives to a very narrow minded approach he has taken. One mention was the appearance of more wild card riders, maybe even on year old machines. Spice things up and make it way more appealing to spectators and sponsors.

Of course I made all of this up Bo and it doesn't appear in Bloomberg or Reuters investment interviews. Nope, just wild wishes.

I don't think you made it up HAP. Excuse me for wanting to read news from more than one source. I have paid tribute to you on multiple occasions for finding this pieces of Canadian-Dorna info first; but I would like to read more about the financial attitudes of the Canadian Retirement Funds from a direct source & you are not the kind to make things easy regarding links to sources.

I ABSOLUTELY believe that Canadian Retirement was talking with Honda/Dorna/Ezzie and others before investing - it makes absolute sense. I have no evidence, but I have no trouble believing that the smell of Canadian Dollars upped Ezzie's sense of urgency regarding securing SBK's under Dorna's umbrella.

The only part of your claims that I question, HAP, is that Ezzie is going to (freely or by force) hand the power of veto over to alternative parties. Until I see hard evidence - I reckon that claim is a crock.

HAP · 11-03-2012, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Boldor

I don't think you made it up HAP. Excuse me for wanting to read news from more than one source. I have paid tribute to you on multiple occasions for finding this pieces of Canadian-Dorna info first; but I would like to read more about the financial attitudes of the Canadian Retirement Funds from a direct source & you are not the kind to make things easy regarding links to sources.

I ABSOLUTELY believe that Canadian Retirement was talking with Honda/Dorna/Ezzie and others before investing - it makes absolute sense. I have no evidence, but I have no trouble believing that the smell of Canadian Dollars upped Ezzie's sense of urgency regarding securing SBK's under Dorna's umbrella.

The only part of your claims that I question, HAP, is that Ezzie is going to (freely or by force) hand the power of veto over to alternative parties. Until I see hard evidence - I reckon that claim is a crock.

Huh Bo, you did know Ezpeleta is a CEO of one company and acting CEO of another? He doesn't own these companies, He has no veto powers over the Bridgepoint investors or the Canadian Pension fund, he serves at the leisure of the Bridgepoint owners whom he works for. They make the decisions, he carries them out or gets the axe.

I left you the bread crumbs to the financial stories and assumed since you were a world champion surfer you would find the secret story.

You can also read about the frustration your buddy had when the WSBK came under his umbrella and it didn't go his way. The Flimmie boys were not fired as he had hoped.

D41 · 11-03-2012, 06:10 PM

HAP - 1, Boldor - 0.

Boldor · 11-03-2012, 06:21 PM

I AIN'T no Ezzie fan! That has to be understood. He gives me nightmares HAP.

leftarmlogan · 11-03-2012, 08:06 PM

He looks like a James Bond villain.

Boldor · 11-03-2012, 08:09 PM

But for real.