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BeHereNow

I wanted to make this post before it is verboten.
One of my co-workers just made Navy Chief (E-7) (reserves). She is Sea Bee (construction battalion), did two tours in Iraq.
I did my active duty '72-'76, some active reserve after that, always enjoy keeping up on things.
She told me that all bars on bases have been shut down. No enlisted men’s club, or Petty officer, or Officer. You can still buy beer off base, and bring it back to the barracks, and drink it in your room, but can’t go outside with it.
You can smoke, only if you go outside, not in your room.

You can’t have a cigarette with a beer on a Naval base, too dangerous.

Probably other military bases too, but she’s not sure.
When I was in we had pop machines filled with beer on every floor of the barracks.

Bonnie06Tangerine

It's not just the Navy. You cannot smoke in any building on an Air Force installation as well. We currently have NCOs having to patrol the dorms on the weekends to have a "proactive" eye on our Airman; so much for accountability. Drinking is a sore subject as well, and not just pertaining to drinking and driving. If you are stupid enough to tamper with that then a half a glass of beer could literally end your career. I could go on but I think you would be floored at the differences that incorporate into the service from when you were in.

M.Guy.Vig.

Too dangerous? To whom? Who thinks this stuff up?

Bonnie06Tangerine

Here is a good slogan that you will enjoy that was being pushed for a while:

"0013"

0 alcohol related incidents

0 drinking and driving incidents

1 drink per hour

3 drinks maximum at your outing

Nickwiz

This is laughable. I don't know what the British Army policy on all this is but I'd be suprised if squaddies couldn't get a drink. Bloody hell most army blokes can drink for England in my limited experience. It wasn't so long ago they used to issue rum before a major battle! And I wouldn't be suprised if the Navy still has a rum ration on board Her Majesty's ships.

As for dangerous. I'd have thought being in the military was just about one of the most dangerous proffessions on earth right now!

Even the fuel is poisonous nasty stuff to handle isn't it B06? Mind you I can see why having a fag hanging out of the corner of your gob while re fuelling F16s might not be a good idea!

BeHereNow

I just saw a show on the History channel, the British stopped the grog (rum) ration in the 80's sometime.

I'm still in shock about the US military.
Unreal.
Twilight Zone revisited.

Bonnie06Tangerine

There are additives used in the fuel that you wouldn't even want to know about. Very nasty stuff indeed. The job poses threats and dangers...no question about it. Its the off-duty policies that gets so many people shaking their heads; especially the NCOs that are the ones that actually have to enforce these policies to the troops.

Old Scratcher

Ah, the good old daze. I had a job fitting a phone system into a large brewery in Melbourne, back in the 70's. The unions were so strong back then, they'd forced management to install a beer tap in the workers rest room. So there were 3 taps at the sink, hot water, cold water, & beer. Workers were allowed to drink as much of it as they liked, the only proviso being that the quality of their work mustn't suffer. So naturally, only serious alcoholics need apply, with 2 pot screamers weeded out quickly. I had a mate who did his electricians apprenticeship there, & never realise what an alcoholic he was until he left, & started having to pay for his habit. We were allowed to hit the tap whenever we liked too. So needless to say, it's one of the best jobs I ever had, which I can barely remember.

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M.Guy.Vig.

I believe the night shift workers at British Leyland, back in the 70's had bunk beds installed near their workstations so they could have a kip! The unions were indeed all powerful!

MickSprint06

Well, I grew up in a society where alchohol was just part of life - a good part mostly. You would go to a party get p*ssed and drive home and no one thought anything of it. I can see people shaking their heads but that's just the way it was! It was more about accountability back then, if you could hold your grog then fine, if you were a two pot screamer (as scratcher descibes it) and farked up then you could expect the coppers to come down on you like a ton of bricks. The new wowser world we live in now has killed that off and in the process killed off much of the fun that went with it. Are we better off? Is it all sooooo much more boring now? Only someone who has living in both times can compare really.