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Old 11-19-2009, 12:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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You've probably seen this already. What do you think eh?

Here is the site where you can buy them, and the Government response.

http://www.brammo.com/home/

http://www.shockingbarack.com/
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I'd much rather have this machine...

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They're the coming thing I suppose--good for the environment, etc., but I'd rather have the clattering valves, intake roar & the howling exhaust of my fossil-fueled steed.
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Electric vehicles are a good idea whose time hasn't come, at least yet. The problem is potential purchasers' performance expectations are at odds with the energy density of available battery technology. To really meet those expectations, batteries would have to improve by an order of magnitude over the best lithium ion technology currently available.

The problem is that lithium ion batteries are substantially less than an order of magnitude better than the lead-acid technology that was state of the art a century ago. That isn't much progress in a century and that rate of progress isn't likely to accelerate much in the next 40 - 50 years (barring some completely unforeseeable technological breakthrough).

So I'll probably die before there is an electric motorcycle available that I would actually buy. However, in a couple of weeks, I'll be at the Motorcycle Show, sitting on ones I won't buy and daydreaming.
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I can tell you from my experience; batteries are progressing FAST and electric vehicles are here. Lithium Batteris are getting orders of magnitude cheaper every couple of years. Seriously, I fly RC Planes and Helicopters and the gas engines are rapidly being replaced by electrics. Batteries that I would pay $200 each for 3 years ago I can now get for $40.

The Brammo is being sold now and it won't be more than a year before guys on forums have HACKED it and modded it and vastly improved it. I can see it now in the forum " splice this wire and move jumper switch #2 and the bike does 100 mph".
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You've probably seen this already. What do you think eh?

Here is the site where you can buy them, and the Government response.

http://www.brammo.com/home/

http://www.shockingbarack.com/
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The TT this year saw the birth of the Electric superbike. The future is coming soon and I've seen it. I've a feeling production bikes will be fitted with sound generators as currently the silent speed thing is being recognised as being dangerous to pedestrians and other road users.
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If you buy into the Global Warming business (which I don't), you really don't have much reason to be happy about electric vehicles until we are making electricity with a clean process like nuclear.

Lead acid batteries aren't exactly organici fertilizer either.


Internal combustion engines are already so clean that in many areas, they exhaust cleaner air than they take in. Synthetic fuels are a better idea than electric vechicles, IMHO.
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If you buy into the Global Warming business (which I don't), you really don't have much reason to be happy about electric vehicles until we are making electricity with a clean process like nuclear.
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That just about hits the nail on the head. The elasticktrickery to run these ghastly things has to come from somewhere.
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I'd burn the world's last sequoia to try that wearable motorcycle.
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